Never mind, no pics on either one, but pedigree is correct on grauen mythos.

Brix vom Grauen Mythos is a Pike son. I used to own him. I will see if I can find a copy of his papers to reenter him. He is a sable.

July, my comment on von Arlett is ONLY,.... ONLY with reference to the article named " sables" on their website and in no way was I trying to compare this dog and von Arlett`s dogs. If anyone else had this impression I hope this clears it up.

Hi there, Sean! You are totally right about sables and from what I know that theory is correct; I don't have a problem with sables either and what I ment was that Brix (or whoever was in that picture) had a lot of other problems besides being a sable and you couldn't bring him and the Arlett's sables in the same discution.

Hello July. I don’t have a problem with sables. On the von Arlett`s site there is an article on the color sables, which explains something about the genetic make up, it says that in order for an offspring to be sable one of the parents MUST be a sable even if most of the ancestry are sables. Hence my comment. Also giving the pedigree SHOWN for this dog it is virtually impossible for this pedigree to produce a structure like that of the dog SHOWN.

Come on Sean, this dog's problem is not only being sable! And what have the Arlett's dogs got to do with it? THEY are only sable, while our Brix here...

The photo shown is actually Brix v Grauen MYTHOS - apparently in some "doubles purge" done on the data base, the dog got deleted and the photo shuffled over to the wrong dog...Brix, the sable, was a son of Pike Schafbachmuhle, but I don't remember the dam to reenter him....Brix, the sable, is in Florida in a schutzhund club....

Unless Excalibur de la P'tite Flore is a sable dog it is impossible for the dog shown to this pedigree to be correct. When you factor in this pedigree and the structure of the dog shown you don`t have to be a genius. A good referance is " sables" on von Arlett`s site

By no means this pedigree belongs to the dog in the picture!!! He's supposed to be, not only a dog with a 3-3 linebreeding on Odin, but olso the descendnt of some great dogs - Zamb, Jeck and Cello. How can this be?

there used to be a Pike Schafbachmuhle son in this data base named Brix v Grauen Mythos [??spelling may not be quite right] It looks like this photo is of *that* dog - who seems to have disappeared...

WOW!! Hold on a minute.... a 3-3 Odin breeding has produced this???????? I don't beleive this.

This photo did not show Brix. The color of Brix is black and yellow.