and who put none acaras cold shoulder and to the train of some dogs said not and to this dog champion???????? ponca hill snake and you can investigate if this dog is champion or not in yahoo.com or where you want

i am said you bad words because who give you the permision of cange the pedigree of this dogs ? you dont are nothing for change the pedigree and this dog never was in the seiger of u.s.a ok

erick you confused little man I did not change anything in regards to your dogs pedigree.
You need to stop making up stories.
The facts remain that this dog and the others that you have listed have AKC American titles.
They are not Schutzhund titled and they are not VA rated in a U.S.A. Sieger Show.
Where is the confusion?????
Why don't you point us all to the website that will back up your claims that this dog and the other slope-backs you have listed are VA rated in any Sieger Show!!!
It does not matter how many languages you write it in, you are either stupid, or you are a liar!
* PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!!!!

ODIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ODIN WHO GIVE YOU THE PERMISIOM FOR CHANGE THE PEDIGREE OF PONCA HILL SNAKE WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ODIN QUIEN TE DIO EL PERMISO DE CAMBIAR EL PEDIGREE DE PONCA HILL SNAKE MIRA DESDEASE MUCHO ME ESTAS MOLESTANDO CON TUS COMENTARIOS Y DEVERAS ME TIENES ARTO Y ESCHUCHAME BIEN LO QUE TE BOY A DESIR SI VUELVES A CAMBIAR EL PEDIGREE DE MIS PERROS O HACER COMENTARIOS MOLESTOS TE VAS A DESEAR NUNCA HABER CONOSIDO ESTE SITIO DE INTERNET Y CUIDATE PORQUE YA ME ISISTE ENOJAR CUIDADITO CON HACER ALGO EN CONTRA DE MIS PERROS ERES UN ENBIDIOSO TO ODIN>>>>>>..


Y PARA LAS PERSONAS QUE VEN EL PEDIGREE DE ESTE PERRO EL PERRO ES CAMPION DE U.S.A NOMAS QUE ODIN SE LA PASA DISIENDO QUE NO PORQUE TUBIMOS UN PROBLEMA DE NEGOCIOS ASI QUE NO TIENEN QUE DUDAR DE MIS PERROS

AND ODIN I DONT KNOW WHY THIS DOG IS NOT VA WHERE SAID THIS DOG IS VA YOU DONT SEE RIGHT OR WHATH HERE SAID THIS DOG IS AM. CH PONCA HILL SNAKE THERE NO SAID IS VA

IF A PERSON DONT BELIEVE ME THAT THIS DOG IS CHAMPION YOU CAN GO YAHOO.COM AND PUT PONCA HILL SNAKE AND THERE SAID ALL THE CHAMPIONATES

THIS DOG IS BEST THAT THE GERMAN LINES WOW I LIKE IT

WOW I LIKE THIS DOG

STUPID YOU DONT KNOW IF THIS DOG HAVE SHUTZHUND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND STOP SAID THINGS ABOUT MY DOGS OR IF YOU DONT STOP TE VOY A DEMANDAR

erik, the dog is not a VA dog because it does not have a schutzhund title, a breed survey or a VA rating in an SV style Sieger Show.
American Champ does not make it VA.
The dog and the dogs in its pedigree are obviously from American Style/lines.
You do not know what you’re talking about!
The dog looks crippled!
Stop posting fictitious titles about this dog and some of the other lame looking animals that are being presented as German Shepherds!

no this dog never have a problem whit the hd and if you want to see them contact me at grafentals@hotmail.com i speak spanish and english and i show you the pedigree and the radiographies

Sorry my English is not that good.
I meant the male look like a disabled dog. His back is to long, his is over angulated in his hind legs.
Don’t you have many problems with HD and back diseases? Is this type of GSD approved by the SV?

sorry i said my this dog is the granfather but that is not true this dog is the father of my female and this dog is a dog very very beutiful in person and is va1 and champion and if you dont believe me you can search in yahoo.com and you put ponca hill snake and there said this dog is a champion

I do have an female and the granfather is this dog and i think this dog is valid the pedigree i do know why you said is invalid invalid your mather and if you want to came to see my female when you see it you will close your mouth my e-mail is grafentals@hotmail.com if somebody have a question ask me

Sorry GSD friends I know its not very nice to say, but I think this male and his entity pedigree look like invalids. Did he really make VA? Do you breed GDS like this in the US? I find it very far from the German dont you?

why you said the dog is not va1 ??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This dog was NEVER VA1 in the U.S.A.