Elise von Schraderhaus

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German Shepherd Dog - femaleFemale

Elise von Schraderhaus 


Dam born: 09. June 2014

Elise von Schraderhaus

AKC  DN39862901
Hip: OFA: Fair (GS-95823F28F-VPI) - Elbows: OFA: Normal (GS-EL34997F30-VPI)
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Pedigree

SchH3 IPO3

V Dino vom Schäferliesel SchH3 IPO3 male

2003
SZ 2127123 (AKC DN09531102)
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
V Dino vom Schäferliesel

Gut mittelgroß, mittelkräftig, trocken und fest, kräftiger Kopf mit korrekt getragenen Ohren und etwas hellen Augen. Hoher Widerrist, gute Oberlinie, Kruppe etwas kurz und leicht abfallend, korrekte Front, gute Winkel in Vor- und Hinterhand mit schwungvollen Aktionen bei leicht enger Folge. Wesen sicher, TSB ausgeprägt, lässt ab. V. Zum Erhalt der ehemaligen DDR-Population

SCHH2

V Dragon vom Felsenschloß SCHH2 male

1998
SZ 2029870 (AKC DN04684101)
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
V Dragon vom Felsenschloß

SCHH3 (LGA) FH2 IPO3

V Tino vom Felsenschloß SCHH3 (LGA) FH2 IPO3 male

1995
SZ 1932875
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
V Tino vom Felsenschloß

SCHH2

G Fenia vom Zentaur SCHH2 female

1992
SZ 1839797
HD-fast normal
Dam
G Fenia vom Zentaur

SCHH 2

SG Sally vom Schäferliesel SCHH 2 female

1999
SZ 2050617
HD-Normal
Dam
SG Sally vom Schäferliesel

SCHH3 (BSP/LGA) FH

SG Muchta vom Schwarzhorn SCHH3 (BSP/LGA) FH male

1994
SZ 1906208
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
SG Muchta vom Schwarzhorn

SchH3

INT CH V- Illa von der Mittelhäuser Flur SchH3 female

1996
SZ 1950787 ( AKC DN04888801)
HD-HD:fast Normal
Dam
INT CH V- Illa von der Mittelhäuser Flur


Ingka von Schraderhaus female

2008
AKC DN23261201
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam
 Ingka von Schraderhaus

SCHH3

V Ron vom Ludwigseck SCHH3 male

2004
SZ 2155697
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
V Ron vom Ludwigseck

SCHH2

V Sando vom Haus Iris SCHH2 male

1998
SZ 2022130
HD-Normal
Sire
V Sando vom Haus Iris

SCHH3

V Quandell vom Gräfental SCHH3 female

2000
SZ 2075034
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam
V Quandell vom Gräfental

SchH2

V Dany Vom Gräfental SchH2 female

2004
SZ 2143434 (AKC DN22199001)
HD-SV: HD a-fast normal OFA: Good
Dam
V Dany Vom Gräfental

SCHH3

V (LGZS) Tino vom Schäferliesel SCHH3 male

2000
SZ 2063351
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
V (LGZS) Tino vom Schäferliesel

SCHH1

SG Neumann's Sarah SCHH1 female

1994
SZ 1918154
HD-SV: HD a-fast normal (a2)
Dam


User comments



mrdarcy
mrdarcy
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 04:51 pm
Removed the last 3 comments and will tell you again to take it private or start a thread in our forums if you want the world to know your issues!!
mrdarcy
mrdarcy
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 06:24 pm
Could both parties please take this debate to PM's as this is not the place for all this back and forth. Buyer/breeder disputes should either be in the forums or private, this section is for comments on the actual dog and not what you both think of each other etc, etc. Most, not all, of what has been posted here should be deleted but I have not done that ....yet, so please no more. Thank you.
Czech DDR Lover
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 07:26 pm
The change of name from that which is to include my kennel name, von Schraderhaus, is what I have issue with.
You signed my contract in which it states very clearly that the name is to retain my kennel name, among other requirements particularly if you are upgrading to full registration status. You waited until I lifted the limited registration status granting her full registration, after you did her hips and elbows, (showing that she was indeed named with my kennel name) and then changed the name to be named with YOUR kennel name.
This is against your contractual agreement you signed when you purchased my pup, and I took it up with AKC and sent proof of said contract, and they upheld my complaint against you for changing the name, and reinstated the name that was agreed upon which was Elise von Schraderhaus... NOT ANGELIKA von SCHUTZENGELPLATZ that you changed it to just prior to breeding her to your male Kai vom Parchimer Land. This name change was done the intent that pups from her, a dog of my breeding, would instead reflect that the pups were born from a dog that appeared to be of Your breeding.
This is the unethical deed, not my posting about it under the pdb listing for my dog Elise von Schraderhaus.

I have since learned that you have done this with other pups you have purchased from other breeders... so this is not the first time you have done this.
Czech DDR Lover
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 07:23 pm
Tracie, your comments here are not truthful.. I have multiple emails back and forth on this subject with you and have always been responsive to your many questions whether about the inverted puppy vulva you stated she had, or about breeding her when the time came and helping you learn of the importance of doing progesterone testing since it appears she has a short window for her fertile time.

Elise has had two litters now, which she has whelped naturally, and often these inverted puppy vulvas correct themselves as they grow and mature. This is indeed the case with the female Elise that I sold you. |


Tlrohr1965
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 07:53 pm
I purchased this Bitch, from Jean Schrader of Schraderhaus, as a breeder for my imported Stud. Upon taking to Vet because she would scream every time a male would mount her, it was found she had a genetic defect.
The only way this Bitch can breed is ALI, or if she is muzzled and held for a forced breeding.
I felt a reputable breeder would replying to a buyers issue for a genetic defect when you paid good money for Unlimited registration and met all requirements.
After a week of no response from the kennel, I emailed her still with no reply. Then, yes, I changed the dogs name through AKC. Which upon AKC contacting me, I told them no problem then to change it back I wasn't fighting it.
This is now being prepared for court to force breeder to stand behind her contract as I do and a reputable breeder should.
Fantom76
Fantom76
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 08:01 pm
AKC has a stipulation that names can be changed by the first owner of the dog ONLY in the absence of a signed contract to the contrary. Due to a complaint being filed with AKC, I have a copy of a note received from AKC that the name of the dog will be reinstated to the original name Elise von Schraderhaus. given her at the time of sale
Fantom76
Fantom76
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 08:34 pm
From: ofa office
Subject: RE: Incorrect information
According to the AKC this dogs name was changed from Elise Von Schraderhaus to Angelika Von Schutzengelplatz in September 2017. I will update the dog’s name in the OFA database.

GSDHeritage
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 02:43 pm
AKC has rules in changing names if the breeder Registers the dog with their Registered Kennel name the dogs name by AKC rules can not been changed without the breeders permission.

https://www.akc.org/press-releases/akc-rule-change-allows-owners-to-rename-their-dogs/

The American Kennel Club® (AKC) is pleased to announce a registration rule change that now allows owners of AKC registered dogs to change the official name of their pet. Dogs are eligible if they were born in the U.S., have never been bred, or have not won any awards at an AKC event.

“We have a lot of interest from AKC registered dog owners looking to rename their dogs,” said David Roberts, AKC's Assistant Vice President of Registration. “In most cases, the dog is a beloved pet and the owner would like to pick a name that has special value to them. The new rule allows owners to change the name when transferring their AKC registered dog, or to request a name change at any time.”

Previously, a policy was in place that only allowed the owner to change a dog's name if the dog had been individually registered by its breeder and the request was accompanied by written permission from the breeder. The new regulation reads:

“The name of a dog registered with The American Kennel Club will be allowed to be changed provided the dog was whelped in the United States and in cases where the breeder(s) first individually registered the dog, their written consent would be required. A dog name containing a Registered Kennel Name cannot be changed without the written consent of the owner(s) of that Registered Kennel Name.


However, no change in the name will be recorded by The American Kennel Club after the dog has produced or sired an AKC registered litter or received an award at an AKC licensed or member event.

Any name change must comply with all AKC requirements.”

The service fee for a name change is $25. The Dog Name Change Authorization form is located online. The completed form can be faxed to the AKC at: 919-816-4261 or mailed to the address on the application.
Czech DDR Lover
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 05:23 pm
I sold this pup to Tracie Rohrbacher with limited registration, with option to upgrade to full registration, once certain requirements are met by the new owner. Tracie claims to be a reputable breeder that has been doing breeding for many years. Yet... she is highly unethical and while she talks out of one side of her mouth and "appears" to be complying with the breeder on her pup's requirements for upgrading to full registration,, once I met my terms of sale, and granted her the dog's upgrade to full registration, she then deliberately and knowingly goes against the terms of the contract to which she agreed to and signed....
that being:
CHANGING THE NAME OF THE DOG FROM THE REGISTERED KENNEL NAME of ELISE VON SCHRADERHAUS as per contract that the dog is to CONTAIN and REMAIN WITH MY KENNEL NAME... but this dog has now been named with HER KENNEL NAME.... Angelika von Schutzengelplatz.
An official complaint has been entered and filed by me with AKC.
I am working to get this dog's name back to the original name that she was given, ELISE VON SCHRADERHAUS, with AKC.
Reputable breeders don't do this kind of unethical back yard shenanigans... they give the breeder who bred/produced the dog their due credit for having produced said dog.
Buyers also have to remember that the pups that we place for sale are OUR pups until they are sold and become YOUR pups.
The terms of our pup sales, or ANY breeder's pup sales, are entirely up to the litter owner, since they own the dam and the litter, and determine what terms we as breeders are willing to sell our pups under. If buyers don't like the terms, they are free to look and buy elsewhere. But it is also very petty to bash breeders for those same terms as I have seen Tracie doing on her fb page about other breeders.
Part of a breeder's decision to withhold full registration, and for putting requirements on the dogs who we allow the option for upgrading to full registration, is for the purpose of preserving the quality of the breed, the pureness of certain lines that we want to carry forth, and to insure that future owners who want to breed have some clue as to the kind of dog they have, and of the future pups they hope to be producing, in order to sell to owners who can handle the pups that they will be getting, and not simply sell a "puppy" into just any type of home or to an inexperienced, unsuspecting new owner as to the type of pup they may get. As the litter owner of our pups, It's our prerogative to do this when we own the pups you are buying.
This is my dog I sold to Tracie Rohrbacher as a pup... "ELISE VON SCHRADERHAUS" She is now listed (by me) on the database as such.
However, her registered name has been changed at AKC , AGAINST the contract terms signed and agreed upon by Tracie Rohrbacher, who now has her listed on the database as Angelika von Schutzengelplatz.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2637350-angelika-von-schutzengelplatz


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