Fero-Troll-Yoschy free breeding lines - Page 1

Hello, I am thinking of buying a new German Shepherd puppy from working lines. Some time ago I acquired a puppy from the "Del Camino Duro" kennel and I was very convinced about the positive points of staying away from bottlenecks, and since Fero-Troll-Yoschy/Aly appear in too many pedigrees, I am looking for kennels in Germany, Czechia or any country that breeds with free dogs of these lines. Do you know any?

Are you wanting DDR?

Those dogs are 5-6+ generations back on all pedigrees that have them . it will not hurt ANYTHING Whoever is having you stress over it must not understand genetics. and there is a reason they where used so much. Because they where top dogs of their time if you want good dogs you breed to proven males

I would also agree with @jbaker1980. The outward expressions of a given dog will be more affected within the first few generations. I have seen studies of breeders concerned of excessive lineage, but usually what that translates into is the extreme use of fewer or one stud. Personally, I would bet most people would not discard any of those dogs mentioned by the OP, base on phenotype(observable traits) or genotype (gene make-up). I do look farther back to see how consistently the dogs have been bred type to type, and to get a general sense of how well traits and appearance are passed on over the lineage. For my money, gene diversity, but with congruence of traits and appearance is idea. Some people ascribe heavily to the "breed 'em tight - breed 'em right adage",  and there's validity to it, but outcrossing is neccessary at somepoint, lest you want degradation to structure and abilities.  The opposite is true, intentionally or out of ignorance, where there is no breeding program, and every litter is an open breeding.  I've been touch and go for a while on importing from a Czech veterinarian breeder, whose approach I think matches my preferrence.  If the "world" ever settles down, I will probably go ahead.  He uses WG/Czech working lines and one of my females is heavily influenced by his program.  She's spectacular, and her lineage goes back to all three dogs in the OP's question.  Yet, the breeder seems to know propper new genes to pull in to his program, based on the successes of Martin Pejsa.