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viperk9

by viperk9 on 13 January 2011 - 21:01

Seems to be a lot of discussion on the board lately about personal protection training.
 
I am no expert but I have always done personal protection with my German Shepherds.   Why?  I enjoy it.  And it gives me a sense of security I wouldn't otherwise have, my family has experienced violent crimes and my mother taught me to always own a GSD that is personal protection trained.  She herself purchased a 2 year old PP trained dog when I was only 2 years old (28 years ago) and I remember having fake intruders break into our house for training when I was a toddler.  I trained my first when I was 15 years old and the only place that dog didn't go with me was to school.  As soon as I could drive she lived in the back seat of my car, waited for me at the mall, at the movies, wherever I went so did she and she wouldn't have had it any other way.  There were several times that I felt she saved me from a potentially dangerous situation, I will never know what could of happened, I have her to thank for that. 

I train my dogs for every possible situation that either myself or my helper can think of but all the while with the intention of never using them.  I don't want to use them, I don't hope for something to happen so I can give my dog a "live" bite.  I hope that my dog will be deterrent enough for any thing dangerous to pass by me but just in case it doesn't I train for it all.

We train our dogs to work regardless of where the handler is, whether they be right next to the dog or 100 yards away.  In real life if I were to ever use my dog I would never send them on anyone, if the "bad guy" is more than 6 feet away then I don't need to use my dog, just my opinion.  I train my dogs bite just as hard and fight just as much regardless of how much or how little I say.  I train them to protect me, my house and my vehicle, to attack on command any subject and to respond to my cries for help when I am out of sight.  I set up scenarios at my house, in my car, in the areas I frequent, in dark alleys, abandoned buildings, anywhere we can gain access to.  I train in the bright of day and the dark of night.  I train my dog to respond to a physical threat against me or them self.  I also train complete control starting from day one.  I train my dog to bite on the ground, through car windows, on the roof of a car, on top of a stack of pallets, on stairs and slick or unsteady surfaces.  The more I train and the more varied my training, the more I enjoy it, the more my dog enjoys it and the more confidence that I have that if the situation should ever arise where it became necessary to use my dog that my dog would perform impeccably.

I wish I had video of my old dogs who have since passed, they were old school, before I had ever heard of schutzhund, great dogs, great training.

I only have 2 videos of my Husbands dog who he is currently training in personal protection.  She will be 2 in February and the videos are of only her 6th and 7th bite work sessions.  She is still in the early stages of training in the videos.  The firs video ist her first time doing short send offs and her first intro to veihcle protection while the handler get progressively farther away and she is tied inside the vehicle.  The second video is of her 7th training session where she is introduced to biting a fake hand and then biting a progressively more passive subject.  Yes, she is extrememly high pitched so you may want to turn your speakers down.

May be a pointless thread but I am just expressing my oppinion of and experience with personal protection training.



by duke1965 on 14 January 2011 - 00:01

nice clips viper , but I have a  question if you dont mind

if your training personal protection , why are you putting so much work in your dog holding the sleeve (work in prey)  and hand
I would let the helper put pressure on you right after the bite , and hope for the dog to spit out the sleeve and go for the helper again

just my thoughts

Platz752

by Platz752 on 14 January 2011 - 02:01

If the helpers drops the sleeve and charges the dog, will the dog engage? Have you introduced hiden equipment?

by ALPHAPUP on 14 January 2011 - 03:01

ouch..... for constructive input only ..... IMO there is no balance in this dog- Leyla  . the display that i observed via the video paints this dog as very erratic .. at least by my standards and training . nice quick entry and seems to bite nicely BUT .. and this is a big point of contention to me [ goes hand in hand with the errratic / frantic behavior ] .. you cannot control this dog . this dog poorly outs !! you have to check , check , check to have this dog keep it's mouth off the sleeve. you have trouble IMO !!. and you will get into trouble. without intention of  being critical to you .. only a critique of the performance .. this is a performance IMO i would not be proud about .if you desire personal protection .. this dog should feel a lot better about pp  and you better darn have control of this dog. .. i would expect a dog to out .. by simply requesting / telling it to out .. and if it did not .. one should be terribly concearned about a personal protection bit !! just an honest assessment. i would be happy to converse more or give advice ......  .you are welcome to corrrespond via the 'inbox' feature .

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 14 January 2011 - 04:01

Lol! I didn't watch the videos, but some of you are hilarious. 6 sessions could be 3 weeks at twice a week.

VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 14 January 2011 - 06:01

Don, Perfect out and hidden sleeve after six sessions? *shakes head* I wish I had those kind of bionic training skills. It takes 12-18 months in bi-weekly sessions to completely train a PPD perfectly for every possible situation. Train, not even maintain.

I bet Jody has more experience than most here, and great post, by the way.

by crhuerta on 14 January 2011 - 12:01

Jody,
Congrats to Brian and his desire to train his "girl".
I know this female.(very nice female)...she has more heart than many....and Jody does have more real experience in training dogs than many have any idea about.
Keep training Jody...and keep writing your excellent training articles for UScA. (I just read this past issue).
Your friend,
Robin

*And yes,...this is only a short actual time in training.

troublelinx

by troublelinx on 15 January 2011 - 03:01

Awsome dog, Bill breeds good dogs. 
IYO do you judge that she is in prey drive in the 1st video.  Is that the reason for the high pitch bark? 

Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 15 January 2011 - 05:01

Thanks for sharing your videos





 


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