Any Herding Titled Breeders - Page 1

I am in the pursuit of a Stud to breed to my Kirschental line female. I run a sheep farm and would like to produce a litter of pups suited for herding. Bitch will be bred fall 2017. Please submit any stud dogs and Kennels preferably in Canada, I would be open to purchasing a male already titled and Breed survey from Europe, if no studs are available in Canada. Must have strong herding lines. Thanks in advance

I don't know if any of her dogs have herding titles, or are active in that discipline, but Tracy Bullinger has several stud dogs available that are IPO titled and breed surveyed German show lines. Tracy is in the Langley, BC area. If she doesn't have what you want, she'll probably know who does. Besides, she's a nice person to deal with, and very knowledgeable about her lines.

http://www.bullingergermanshepherds.com/

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=627746-lenz-vom-dolderbrunnen

Owned by Ulf Kintzel - http://www.whitecloversheepfarm.com/

 

There's also a dog in NC -- maybe too closely related -- http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=573191-amigos-vom-kirschental

 

Another dog: 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=1809449-aries-vom-shepherdgate

 

Christine

 

I don't know if the owner studs this dog, he is in CA and has several herding titles. His dam was the HGH Siegerin and I believe 12x HGH in Germany with Karl Fuller.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=682936-altatollhaus-just-a-singer

She's in British Columbia, but if anyone knows where to find herding titled GSDs in Canada, I'd think Shelley Fritzke would: http://www.tehillahgermanshepherddogs.com/ She is, IIRC, a CKC herding judge in addition to breeding GSDs.

yeah, what about wiki?

Good question.

Ellen Nickelsberg may be another resource. Located in upstate New York.

http://www.german-shepherdherding.com/

Lots of interesting articles too.

Ellen's dogs most definitely are worth considering, I just thought the OP was looking specifically for titled dogs...but Ellen's dogs, like Ulf Kinzel's, are most definitely real-world herding dogs. Ellen doesn't trial them, but there's no denying that her very limited breeding program produces solid herding dogs.

Is your female's pedigree on this site? I'd love to see what's behind her...am quite partial to the Kirschental lines.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=474131-sherry-vom-kirschental

Bit far for you but it might be worth checking if owner has any frozen semen or if he's still breeding if she's will to ship fresh cooled semen.

I've been involved with herding since early 1990's and most of the GSDs who have worked in the AHBA, AKC, Asca and BC programs did not come from herding titled stock and yet there have been consistently good workers down thru the years. It seems to be a remarkably persistent working trait in our breed - even in American show lines.

I personally like in WGSL lines concentrated on the Volker Zollgrenzscutzhaus thru Quanto Weinerau thu Lasso di val Sol and Lasso Neuen Berg. I worked 3 dogs in herding from these lines. A bitch linebred on Volker, her son linebred on Quanto including Lasso di val Sol and a Lasso Neuen Berg son. The bitch was more of a natural driver than fetcher tho that may have been a function of the age she was started at. The males were natural fetchers with an elongated wear. All three had presence and power without any intent to hurt stock which makes life easy. All three were very stable, clearheaded dogs with a high degree of willingness in their work. The Lasso N son was in fact a dwarf http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=557479-nemo but both the stock and he knew he really was a big dog. He faced down full size rams w/o a problem and when we got to the paddock gate the sheep were at the far end of the paddock, faced out stamping their feet. He had a LOT of prescence.

I have also known some nice herding dogs to come out of classic WGWL tho on some it takes a fair piece of time to get it together because of high drives. Look for a breeder that also puts emphasis on pack and obedience drive as well as fight, prey and hunt. A coupleof dogs just had too much power and drive and would have made good cow dogs but the owners chose not to pursue that. One actually won her cattle class at the Silver Bullet a prestigous stock event held every April in the other CA. One of the best stock workers I have seen in 25 years is a young bitch out of classic WGWL combined with Dutch and Belgium dogs. Her sire unfortunately is not http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2204419-zeffe-von-sontausen  available. The Silver Bullet winner was her cousin on the dam side but the two bitches had very different working styles. The cow dog was pushy and hard headed and more into possession than control. From a very young age Zeffe was a naturally wide, very calm worker who rated her stock and had absolutely perfect balance. The owner is working with Linda Rorem and I believe Linda will tell you she's the best GSD she has seen in herding - period.  I will say this I was not expecting it from her sire. Thought the progeny would be harder and more driven. There may be some youtube videos of her work.

I will also note that my Remy http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=485683-remy had elements from both camps. Her sire was hi-line with a high degree of linebreeding on both Quanto and Lasso di val Sol. Her dam line had some commonalities with Zeffe's sire. But alas a she was not remotely a herding dog. That strong herding instinct I spoke of seemed to have passed her by. Her response to cattle was to go head on for the nose. However she was biddable enough and clear headed enough that I did use her on occasion to block a runway from sheep by either platzing her or putting her on a tie down while we did vet work. She was a big strong girl and I had limited mobility so I never tested her on sheep in a pasture since she already had two other careers - as my service dog and my HOT schutzhund dog.