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Western Rider

by Western Rider on 24 March 2014 - 03:03

Saied don't get discouraged just yet.

First post  the dogs name and anything that you know about her.  Let's see if anyone here know her or who may have had her.

Dog papers are NOT kept on a hard drive just the copies.  So when you were told that she had all the papers on her hard drive that was just the copies.  They would be, of course, helpful to have but it seems that she is not willing to help you.

Call AKC in the morning.  Explain that you bought a dog from Klaus. That you paid in full but he refuses to give you the papers and what can they do to help you get them.

I know several people who have had this problem and AKC helped them.

Unfortunately this happens a lot when dealing with brokers.  They sell the dog but don't pay the owner so they never get the papers to give to the new buyer. Reason to post the name of the dog see if the original owner comes forward.

If you should find the dogs real owner they are not going to give you papers unless you want to pay again.

I do think you will find AKC helpful in this mattter.  So start things rolling and post the dogs name and any information then follow up with AKC

Good luck



 

by cathy d on 24 March 2014 - 12:03

The only thing that is going to help is taking Klaus to court.  You don't need a lawyer for small claims.  That is if you have a receipt from him.  He doesn't give those out, either.

by Saied1195 on 24 March 2014 - 22:03

Hello Western Rider & Cathy D,

I just wanted to thank both of you because  you took the time out to try to give me the right advice,really i appreciate it alot.

By the way Western Rider I did contact AKC this morning and found out that our shepherd zilpa vom kleinen mohr is registered under Donna's name,they also said that I should try to contact her which I did again and she's still referring me back to klaus and actually I can't blame her for anything because I did the transaction with klaus and not her.Maybe your right he is a broker and maybe he never finished paying her.

But I don't understand how he is continuing with his business with so many people complaining about him.If everyone can come together and take him to court maybe we can stop him from taking advantage or robbing innocent people.

Thank you

by dogfriend72 on 15 September 2014 - 01:09

I have known Klaus for 10 years now and I do not agree with the accusations of "scam artist" that he is being slandered with here. I have boarded my dog with him every year for many years now, I have attended his classes, received training and I have two relatives who have bought several GSD's from him. One relative has known him for at least 15 years and she has bought from him a total of 5 GSD's that I have known personally over the years. All of those dogs have been exceptional in every respect. Never has anyone in my family complained about his professional behavior or accused him of being dishonest.

From reading these posts it sounds like the issue is in regards to paperwork and that there is more than one party involved. Certainly not ground for someone to be labeled a "scam artist" on an internet forum. Also is there anything wrong with the dog itself in terms of health or temperament? Really that would be something to be taken seriously if you were sold an inferior animal for premium cost. Not getting some paperwork which has to pass through many hands and at least two different countries? You must do more in solving it personally before making accusations.

If anyone wants further information you can message me with your email.
Thanks,
GM

mahon

by mahon on 15 September 2014 - 16:09

Saired

if you have not upset Donna and she is willing to help resolve the matter she is last recorded owner and can order lost duplicate registration for you from AKC. Then you will have to find out from AKC if she can transfer registration directly to you if you are having issues with the broker or middle man. 

Hope this helps :)

mahon


by bzcz on 15 September 2014 - 17:09

Dogfriend

The OP shouldn't have had to do the amount of work they already have. 

Klaus say contact Donna, Donna says contact Klaus.  That would be a scam.  Those two know who has the papers. 

KLAUS sold the dog.  KLAUS stated that the dog was registered.  KLAUS stated that the OP would get the papers and he has not supplied them.

That by definition is a scam.  Don't care what your relationship with them is.  That only makes you biased. 

He said he would supply the papers with the dog.  Either he follows it up with action or he scammed the OP out of their money.  Without the papers, they can't show, title or breed the dog.  So they have a dog that they can do nothing with.  That is still a scam.

 


by Richard Medlen on 15 September 2014 - 19:09

I never cease to be amazed by the number of folks who come on here claiming to have been swindled in a dog deal. The numbers and claims are almost unbelievable. An old timer in the breed warned me years ago that the only thing more dishonest and untrustworthy than dog brokers were horse brokers. Hence, fools and their money are soon parted. My advice, with more than 50 years in the breed is that if you don't know the person you are dealing with personally, don't hesitate to  get some really serious and all encompassing references and documentations of their business dealings. Get some ethical references with individuals you can contact and discuss their experiences with your prospective dealer. If they can't supply enough verifiable character and business references to really satisfy you and remove all doubt don't walk but run away from the deal as quickly and rapidly as you possibly can..  There is a sucker born every minute and swindler born every other minute hoping to find that sucker and relieve him/her of the contents of their wallet. Don't become that SUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LOVE THY SHEPHERD

by LOVE THY SHEPHERD on 18 September 2014 - 03:09

This is to Richard Medlen,

Yes you are biased.  Just because your friends with this person doesn't mean

he can't scam someone else.  I have been scammed by more than one person

and they were supposedly big show breeders.  I am not perfect either, but when

someone sell you a dog and says your getting papers, you should get papers !!

If Donna from Hundhaus registered this dog then she should be able to transfer the

dog to you, if you have the proof you purchased the dog.  She would have had to send

in papers to get the dog in her name.  I would call her and calmly ask her to do this.  I

would also send copies of everything you have to AKC  You can really get alot done

over the phone and in writing, just be patient.  Also how long have you had the dog ?


by Richard Medlen on 18 September 2014 - 12:09

Love Thy Shepherd:

Sorry but I believe you have your opinion wrong or that you misinterpreted what I posted.  I have no idea who Klaus Rempis, Donna Daily or Hundhaus are.  To the best of my knowledge, they certainly are not my friends and if I have ever met them or heard of them, I am not aware of it.  My comment was one of generalities  With all the posts that come on this website concerning folks who have been defrauded in dog deals,  I can't understand why people who read them find ways to lose their money. If nothing else, I would think one should consider that if so many seem to be scammed by dog dealers, it might be prudent to not deal with anyone you do not know.

If you or a friend lost money in a dog deal, I am sorry and I hope you or your friend find a way to get it back.






 


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