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GSDNewbie

by GSDNewbie on 25 August 2013 - 20:08

AKC papers basically can go to any dog. There is only as much honesty behind them as every breeder in the history making of the dog they are currently pinned to.

dragonfry

by dragonfry on 25 August 2013 - 20:08

I don't think it's pure either and i suspect Catahoula (Due to the complete lack of white splashed or collar, he does have a white spot on the chest) rather then aussie. I'd even take the Berchron over aussie. It's a very pretty dog. Like the rottweiler/aussie i once saw. Everywhere a rottie is black this dog was blue merle but his coat was like an aussies. Here's some dogs for comparison.

Catahoula with a thicker coat.

Catahoula with a hound coat

One with a lot of white.

Beaucheron in Harlequin or merle Note the tan always present on the legs and face. Like a dobe or rottie.

Merel border collie
blue merle shepherd dog - gsd history http://www.aboutgermanshepherddog.com/german-shepherds-evolution
And someone claiming this is a photo of a blue merle shepherd used as foundation stock. Who knows maybe this dog is a throwback?
And just for kicks a blue merle Mudi, a rare and old breed.

Jyl

by Jyl on 25 August 2013 - 20:08

I was thinking there was some Catahoula in there as well because of the color. None the less a VERY pretty dog

GSD4dogs

by GSD4dogs on 25 August 2013 - 23:08

I don't see any way it is a purebred GSD but if it is important for you to know do a DNA test and end the mystery.

Beautiful dog!

Harrisonsgsds26

by Harrisonsgsds26 on 26 August 2013 - 00:08

Well as I stated No brindles have been shown to be pure. AKC papers doesnt make the dog a pure bred sorry. It takes a bit more evidence to back those claims. A good example is the Panda mutation. So based on research Im sticking to my guns..

The above Old picture is From The German Shepherd Dog In Word and Picture. Max von
Stephanitz was the one who threw all these colors together because apparently color didn't matter In the beginning. Just about everything but color was considered. 

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 26 August 2013 - 03:08

Fry, the Collie and the Mudi are beautiful;  (why would anyone
want to get merle into another breed that does not carry it,
when there are dogs like this on the planet already ???  ....)

That old German dog looks as though it has a healthy dose of
Greyhound in it,  far from being typical of the original dogs in the
gene-pool.
 

Kaffirdog

by Kaffirdog on 26 August 2013 - 04:08

Here's another print or the foundation dogs.


Konotashi

by Konotashi on 26 August 2013 - 04:08

I was wondering if there was maybe border collie (with prick ears) bred to a GSD, then bred back to a GSD? 

Either way, pretty dog. 

I've seen so-called brindle GSDs before. Look like Dutchie/GSD mixes to me, despite being AKC.... I want to see these dogs' DNA records, personally.... 

by blackfurbabe on 26 August 2013 - 10:08

If a dog is found in a rescue like the one shown, i do not think it can be considered pure bred unless the papers were given with it, and are true.
I do like the pattern and color of this dog though.

Brindle:- Malcolm Willis (geneticist) says in his book brindle is very very rare, Ch Donna v Allerheiligentor 1924 was a brindle as was her son Igor of Ceara 1927 sired by Ch Caro of Welham. The gene is almost lost from the breed but when present causes a black striping effect on tan legs.
 

 

Harrisonsgsds26

by Harrisonsgsds26 on 26 August 2013 - 12:08

Hundmutter I agree it may be suspect but that merle dog is said by Stephanitz to be of Wurttemberg stock. I doubt that dog is anything less then a member of the GSD gene pool JMHO.





 


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