Price of altered sport/protection dog - Page 1

I am curious on what others would value a dog at who is altered, but a titled IPO dog or PSA. I know most will say a dog is worth what people will pay, but can anyone give a ballpark on actual prices? Let's just assume the dog is in the prime of life, etc. Not really looking for over inflated prices, but realistic prices. This is to help answer a debate. Thanks

I would say if its a protection trained dog and is being sold for that purpose anywhere from 2-4k.  For bite sports I dont think you would get much interest above 2k if even that.  I also think people are more forgiving of spayed females then neutered males.  I know I would never buy a male that was neutered for any money.  A female as long as the spay was done after she developed I can see it being less of an issue.  JMO

I would say if it is PP trained maybe $2500 and that goes down a few hundred if not more every year over 3.  Remember a IPO title is not protection trained a lot of sport dogs don't know what to do when there is not a visible sleeve to hit. Some will do it but not all so make sure it is a PP trained dog. 

Just my uninformed two cents

If the dog's health tests are good - hips/elbows, and the rest. And its training is good, and its young.
Paying 2500 or more is fair. IMO.

So much of the worth of an adult dog is in its age, temperament, health and training.

yeah, PP training weeds out all the faker sport dogs LOL.

anyway, how much would I value it?  Not much.  I probably wouldn't pay anything.  If I had one I was looking to place for some reason, I'd probably give it to someone I knew for free.

I know there is a market for those dogs, I just don't think it's a very big one.  But I'm not big on selling BS to people with money.  I know I could make a lot more money that way, but dogs aren't a commodity to me anyway.  I've trialed and titled with altered dogs.  Kept them forever too.  I trained them because I had fun with them.  Why would I sell it or get rid of it?  If I needed to make room for a new one, I'd keep it until I found someone I knew personally that wanted a good dog and give it to them.  It wouldn't take too long.

Reasons I can see someone might want to?  They titled it and and were hoping to breed, but there was a medical reason or injury they had to alter.  They were hoping to title but things changed.  The value in those titled dogs is hopefully in the progeny.  Once that is gone, a lot of the value goes with it.  for me?  I'm not going to pay someone to do the training I can do myself and enjoy it a hell of a lot more.  It's why I have dogs.

I don't think training then selling dogs is very smart business sense, unless of course you're selling bullshit to people with more money than brains.  I don't mind that people can make a buck doing it, it's just not for me.  But if you want to get paid for training, get paid for training.  training and titling a dog to sell that has no worth for progeny is a sure way to waste a lot of time.  

in any situation I can think, a person has a dog that doesn't have a lot of "worth" to them anymore.  It isn't worth it because it can't breed, or it isn't worth it in some other way and they want to replace it.  Either way, why should the value be 3k to someone else if you're just looking to get rid of it?  IF a person still had worth in the dog they wouldn't be trying to get rid of it.  and like I said, training to titled and then sell seems silly to me.  

Or something very bad has happened to the owner and a new home is needed for the dog.  In which case, needing to rehome again, most people don't put a lot of value on those dogs.  Not monetarily, and at that point finding a good home is probably more paramount than getting cash.  again, at least to me it would be.  

the only adult dog I can see being priced higher than 2K is one that has been a proven producer or I think is going to be one.  Most of those aren't being sold anyway.  Not the ones I'd want anyway.  and being altered pretty much takes that out of the equation.

 

To me it would begin at what level of protection the dog is trained for.  Are we talking Level l, 2, or 3 in protection.  That would make the $$ difference.  Of course presuming the dog is in excellent health, neutered, health checks in order, likes kids, cats and will get along with other dogs,  lots of variables are involved.  But Ivan B had a PPD for sale for $22,000.  Looked to be a west gS/L;  not sure about that (intact male) though.  Pretty amazing  ugh. Executive Protection Level 3 I believe.  Well, I for the above mentioned dog  would guess between $2,000-$3,000.  JMO  Best of luck  Nan

Think the price should depend on the individual dog.

I support what zdog says.

If the dog is good at whatever level he is currently at, and fit
to go higher;  if he has a nice temperament;  if what he looks
like suits the buyer, and whether he's a sport dog or a PPD
is what the buyer is looking for, then at minimum  probably
whatever they would be prepared to pay for a green puppy,
maybe of similar ancestry would be fairest.

Titles are not the whole story in regard to breed worth;  
not so much difference between a dog you CAN'T breed with
and a dog you WOULDN'T breed with.


I don't think Fred Lanting would mind my quoting
him from a piece he wrote recently:

"The important thing is the essence of the dog:  the
genes, not the uniform, medals, ribbons, accessibility
to helpers and training clubs, or other paraphenalia.
... Titles do not change what is in the dog's character
or genes.  ... I have seen innumerable working-titled
dogs that should never be in the gene pool."