Hip opinion please - Page 1

Dog is one year old. I would like your opinions on the hip conditions, but also on the xray. The breeder is saying the picture is bad.

Another shot

Neither of the images is truly positioned straight, since the hip is either rotated to the right or left in one or the other image. That said, even if the hips are rotated to allow for apparently better seating (2^nd image) of the left hip (on right side of image), either side barely has 50% coverage. Could still prelim “fast normal” (SV) and “fair” OFA at this stage, and are probably working sound hips, but you will only know for sure if the dog is somewhat dysplastic once the radiographs are repeated at 2 years old, IMO.

Daniela

P.S. Would be easier to judge if you have an image with higher resolution.
 

Daniela:
Thank you for the reply. The first pic seem tilted to me, but the second seemed better. The originals were 8 megs and I cropped to upload. These are close-ups of the second pic, does that help?
I am kind of freaking out here, so much time and money......

The positioning in the second image is not too bad, but mild rotation is little hard to gauge because the  wings of the pelvis are not visible to assess this completely. Either way, the close-up shows close to 50% coverage on both sides, with the right hip (on left side of image) being moderately incongruent. These could still pass OFA or SV, and the dog will likely be working sound throughout his life. Personally I would not breed the dog (except if x-rays at 2 years or older look good) but surely I would feel comfortable working and titling him if he's been sound. I’d also send in the image to OFA or SV for a final verdict :)

Best of luck!
Daniela
 

First pic is still the best one and sufficient enough to evaluate. There is subluxation, so assume the dog was fully sedated? Dont see any remodeling or other signs typical of dysplasia, like worn edge of acetabulum. Yet because of being more sublaxed: OFA fair. IMO

Considering age, best guess, 2nd xray - OFA mild to borderline; SV NZ to fast normal. I think the dog would get a better rating if you submitted the first xray.

First  film is  a good film second is not. Who knows with OFA but I would guess fair ? SV A 3

This is the close up of the first picture right hip. Is amazing to me that the small difference in position would be the difference in rating, and that the dog could be manipulated while sedated and receive a higher score.




I am going to send the first shot to the OFA as a prelim. If it comes back fair, I will continue to work him.
Then maybe retake at 2 and see what it looks like. Maybe it will tighten up, idk.

Thanks again for the comments, very helpful.

Sedation can help the techs position the dog better, but it will also demonstrate subluxation more that an xray taken while the dog was fully awake and resisting the  manipulation. Generally the opposite is true; in a close call, an awake dog will have a better chance of getting certified than if it were sedated to the point of relaxation.  I'd have guessed the first was taken without sedation the second with in spite of the positioning.  The real question is - does the owner want a true picture of the dog's hip status of do they want a certification?

Given this is a  young dog, I think you are right in waiting for a 24 month evaluation. Then you can decide if sedation to the point of relaxation is how you want to proceed.