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by KingandStar on 02 May 2013 - 22:05
Please to start off..We LOVE our two German Shepards and thought we AVOIDED this mistake, So I need ADVICE, Not criticisms or negativity. We had our shepards separated during her heet, we never saw them together but our Male had to have jumped our high fence.
So what is done is done. So far "STAR" is not eating much, however I read that is normal when pregnant. i want to bring her in our large kitchen and get one of those big plastic kid pools and put newspaper in it for her whelping, however my husband says we need to let her go where she wants. We are on one acre of land and since she is so young, I think she needs help. Also, if she will not feed the puppies what kind of milk to give them? Thank-you all for POSITIVE FEEDBACK!
So what is done is done. So far "STAR" is not eating much, however I read that is normal when pregnant. i want to bring her in our large kitchen and get one of those big plastic kid pools and put newspaper in it for her whelping, however my husband says we need to let her go where she wants. We are on one acre of land and since she is so young, I think she needs help. Also, if she will not feed the puppies what kind of milk to give them? Thank-you all for POSITIVE FEEDBACK!
by troopscott on 02 May 2013 - 23:05
by troopscott on 02 May 2013 - 23:05
Why don't you just terminate it?
by bubbabooboo on 02 May 2013 - 23:05
I assume you know she is pregnant because she is showing?? If so probably around 42-49 days?? What is the relationship of the probable sire to the female?? How large is the female in terms of stature, weight and physical strength at present??
by Darcy on 02 May 2013 - 23:05
just to be clear, your husband is NOT suggesting she give birth outside somewhere???
by amysavesjacks on 02 May 2013 - 23:05
I was thinking that too Darcy
by kitkat3478 on 02 May 2013 - 23:05
DO NOT leave her to have pups where SHE wants to have them, unless you don't care if you have a dead dog and dead puppies, which, by your opening statement, you do NOT.
Anything can happen. It probably won't, but it can.
I say definately keep her close to you ,she just might need help.
The who,what and where is irrelevant to the question you asked.
A pool is fine, with papers for whelping, AFTER the pups are born, I highly reccomend you put blankets or sheets in with the pups. Yeah, it is more work, but makes for healthier, happier puppies.
I keep a heating pad in with my puppies. A cold puppy is a dead puppy
Please don't leave this young, inexperienced female to fend for herself in her time of need.
She should feed them, if not, there are products in most farm supply/pet supply stores that sell things such as mothers helper.
In a pinch you can use evaporated milk, an egg yolk with a squirt of Karo ssyrup.
Good luck and keep us updated Please.
Anything can happen. It probably won't, but it can.
I say definately keep her close to you ,she just might need help.
The who,what and where is irrelevant to the question you asked.
A pool is fine, with papers for whelping, AFTER the pups are born, I highly reccomend you put blankets or sheets in with the pups. Yeah, it is more work, but makes for healthier, happier puppies.
I keep a heating pad in with my puppies. A cold puppy is a dead puppy
Please don't leave this young, inexperienced female to fend for herself in her time of need.
She should feed them, if not, there are products in most farm supply/pet supply stores that sell things such as mothers helper.
In a pinch you can use evaporated milk, an egg yolk with a squirt of Karo ssyrup.
Good luck and keep us updated Please.
by SitasMom on 03 May 2013 - 00:05
leerburg.com has a dvd about whelping puppies, i suggest you get it now.
by fawndallas on 03 May 2013 - 00:05
I recommend setting up a whelping box in a room that you can close the door. This allows for you to better control the location. Make sure it is a room you are ok with the puppies being in for at least a couple of weeks. Your bitch will be messy for awhile with a discharge and may not make it outside to go to the bathroom; at least for the first week. This will also need to be a quiet location with minimal traffic; thus a kitchen is not the best place. Laundry room will work; especially if you can put off doing laundry for the 1st week after whelping. Bathroom is ok, but it needs to be large enough for the whelping box and allow a place for mom to escape. Letting her choose is not the best idea; inside it will be exactly in the worst place for you (Law of life) and outside will be in the worst place for her.
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Even though this is not what you intended, your need to be responsible and make it the very best situation for mom and pups. Talk to your vet, study online, learn everything you can.
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PLEASE do not send the puppies off to new homes before 8 weeks. There are lessons they need to learn from mom that occur between 6-8 weeks.
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Make plans to have her spayed after all the pups are gone. No matter how good of a pair they maybe, you as an owner are not prepared to be a breeder. Don't have the dogs suffer yet again when she comes back into heat.
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be prepared for her not to be the best mom. Mentally, she is not ready for this. It is your responsibility to make sure she takes care of them correctly. Be prepare for this to be an expensive lesson; do not let your bitch or the puppies suffer for ill planning. Do right be the puppies by throughly screening all buyers; make sure they know what owning a GSD is all about (shedding, large dog, herding dog, protective dog). Don't set them up to wind up in a shelter because the owner didn't know what they were getting into. Be honest about the puppies; with yourself and the owners.
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Even though this is not what you intended, your need to be responsible and make it the very best situation for mom and pups. Talk to your vet, study online, learn everything you can.
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PLEASE do not send the puppies off to new homes before 8 weeks. There are lessons they need to learn from mom that occur between 6-8 weeks.
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Make plans to have her spayed after all the pups are gone. No matter how good of a pair they maybe, you as an owner are not prepared to be a breeder. Don't have the dogs suffer yet again when she comes back into heat.
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be prepared for her not to be the best mom. Mentally, she is not ready for this. It is your responsibility to make sure she takes care of them correctly. Be prepare for this to be an expensive lesson; do not let your bitch or the puppies suffer for ill planning. Do right be the puppies by throughly screening all buyers; make sure they know what owning a GSD is all about (shedding, large dog, herding dog, protective dog). Don't set them up to wind up in a shelter because the owner didn't know what they were getting into. Be honest about the puppies; with yourself and the owners.
by dragonfry on 03 May 2013 - 00:05
I agree with not allowing her to birth anywhere she wants. She might end up under the foundation of the house! I've seen that before!
And puppies out in the yard will surely have fleas, might be attacked by aggressive types of flies. Nothing grosser then a puppy with maggots on it.
I had my dog birth in my bedroom, because it was quieter then anywhere else in the house. And i used a kiddie pool also. Don't expect them to stay in the pool past about 3 weeks. Because by them they will be crawling everywhere. I actually switched to a big cardboard box for weeks 4 and 5, after that i had to build a big X_pen with a top to keep the pups in. Because one little girl was a climber. She got out of everything!
If your sure your girl really is pageant and not having a false pregency then please go get her some good quality puppy food and start giving it to her now. She's going to need the extra calories to make puppies, and keep her on that food until the pups are weaned.
If you have a spare room, or somewhere fairly quiet that will be the best place for her to birth. The kitchen is a busy spot in most home, and your going to want to keep the male away for a bit so she doesn't feel the need to defend her pups. It's ok for her to see him out or around in the house but not near the pups for the first few weeks.
Make plans with your vet now, incase the unexpected happens. Take the time to talk about what to expect before she goes into labor. Ask what should be normal and when you should start to worry.
Like no one told me that some of the stuff that passes with the placenta is blackish green looking goo and this is normal. Get a note pad and make notes of when labor starts, when the first puppy arrives, time between pups, sex of each pup, when the last pup arrives.
Hope it goes well and happy for ya. Just have to be more careful next time.
And puppies out in the yard will surely have fleas, might be attacked by aggressive types of flies. Nothing grosser then a puppy with maggots on it.
I had my dog birth in my bedroom, because it was quieter then anywhere else in the house. And i used a kiddie pool also. Don't expect them to stay in the pool past about 3 weeks. Because by them they will be crawling everywhere. I actually switched to a big cardboard box for weeks 4 and 5, after that i had to build a big X_pen with a top to keep the pups in. Because one little girl was a climber. She got out of everything!
If your sure your girl really is pageant and not having a false pregency then please go get her some good quality puppy food and start giving it to her now. She's going to need the extra calories to make puppies, and keep her on that food until the pups are weaned.
If you have a spare room, or somewhere fairly quiet that will be the best place for her to birth. The kitchen is a busy spot in most home, and your going to want to keep the male away for a bit so she doesn't feel the need to defend her pups. It's ok for her to see him out or around in the house but not near the pups for the first few weeks.
Make plans with your vet now, incase the unexpected happens. Take the time to talk about what to expect before she goes into labor. Ask what should be normal and when you should start to worry.
Like no one told me that some of the stuff that passes with the placenta is blackish green looking goo and this is normal. Get a note pad and make notes of when labor starts, when the first puppy arrives, time between pups, sex of each pup, when the last pup arrives.
Hope it goes well and happy for ya. Just have to be more careful next time.
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