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by Von Ward Kennels on 03 February 2013 - 16:02
A friend just sent me a link about MSM for parasites. It did not mention coccidia. Does anyone know if MSM works? Does it get rid of Coccidia too? I usually use Kocci free for tiny ones and sulmet for the bigger dogs. Prazi and pyrantel for the other parasites.
I looked up to see how much more info there was on this and saw quite a few other sites stating that MSM works great on parasites.
I looked up to see how much more info there was on this and saw quite a few other sites stating that MSM works great on parasites.
by GinaBel on 03 February 2013 - 19:02
I did a quick internet search, as I had never heard that MSM had anything but possible antiinflammatory properties. All the internet hits are from unreliable sources (ie. sites trying to sell vitamins and internet blogs). I could not find any reference to this on PubMed or the Veterinary Information Network, so I would have to be highly skeptical about the use of MSM for parasites.
Gina
Gina
by Bhaugh on 03 February 2013 - 22:02
How exactly would it kill the parasites? After having just dealt with a sarcopic mange dog and being a holistic practitioner, I still had to sucomb to an insecticide to kill them along with an essential oil. So Im not sure that msm would kill a parasite unless it was in a very large dose.
Barb
Barb
by Jenni78 on 04 February 2013 - 00:02
It doesn't kill them. It creates a barrier by bonding to mucosa, making parasites unable to penetrate and they're therefore flushed out of the body. The dosage has to be higher than typical maintenance dose, ime.
I've used it on horses more than dogs with pretty significant health improvements. The sickly ones w/heavy parasite loads improved dramatically; the already healthy ones experienced even better hair and hooves...so much so that my farrier texted me after trimming and asked what the heck I started feeding them. Mind you, hooves were fine before.
I've used it on horses more than dogs with pretty significant health improvements. The sickly ones w/heavy parasite loads improved dramatically; the already healthy ones experienced even better hair and hooves...so much so that my farrier texted me after trimming and asked what the heck I started feeding them. Mind you, hooves were fine before.
by Von Ward Kennels on 04 February 2013 - 02:02
Oh very interesting. Thank you Jenni78 for giving your experience with it. That's what I was looking for. I don't care how many websites say it works but if someone here has seen it work themselves then I think it just might work. At least help keep us from having to use as many harmfull wormers.
I have horses as well and never thought about it possibly helping with parasites. I know it helps with joints/injuries etc.
I have horses as well and never thought about it possibly helping with parasites. I know it helps with joints/injuries etc.
by Jenni78 on 04 February 2013 - 02:02
http://www.msm-info.com/
Not sure how legit the website is, but its statements do correspond with my experiences, especially where I noted about the horses' hair and hooves (read about connective tissue). They're older horses, 17 & 23 respectively and have been barefoot for years, no hoof issues, but the farrier (natural barefoot trimmer) was just amazed at how much better their hooves were than their pasturemates who were also slopping around in the mud, full of thrush and other hoof ailments.
I used it originally on the 17yr old after being diagnosed w/EPM. I never treated him w/conventional treatments. I gave him the loading dose 2x per day, since EPM is a protozoa and MSM breaks the blood/brain barrier. Besides a few homeopathic remedies I did very early on, MSM is the only treatment he's received and either he never had EPM (possible, but if not, what was it?) or the stuff works as an anti-parasitic and anti-inflammatory. I was concerned with die-off making him worse, as many horses get worse after initiating EPM treatment due to inflammation, so many suggest to supplement w/MSM. After much research, I decided to use more MSM and skip the other stuff. That was almost 2 years ago. He shows no neurological problems and just recently the vet happily witnessed him very carefully using his back hoof to scratch a spot behind his ear without difficulty or loss of balance.
After all that research, I decided to try it for allergies in the 23yr old. I was given this horse for free because his owner could not care for a horse w/COPD as he was diagnosed. I think he was diagnosed incorrectly and he simply has seasonal allergies. Regardless, 1 scoop twice per day of MSM keeps him off steroids when he can't breathe. There were only 3 days this entire year that he needed more for his breathing. He gets a lot of irritation in his sinuses and has had bloody noses, very loud breathing, though his lungs are fine. It's localized in the sinuses and the MSM really seems to keep him in control enough that he's not doing more damage to himself by struggling to breathe w/inflamed tissue. He was a thorn in the vet's side as she could not figure out the key to his problems. He didn't fit into any of the regular categories. I don't really care anymore, since he does so well on it, it has no side effects, and it's cheap. I buy this: http://www.horse.com/item/animed-pure-msm/SLT700318%20025/?SRCCODE=MRHSGPLA&mr:trackingCode=874BC21B-FD38-DF11-BAA3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA&mr:adType=pla&mr:ad=11625252629&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=33792032189
Not sure how legit the website is, but its statements do correspond with my experiences, especially where I noted about the horses' hair and hooves (read about connective tissue). They're older horses, 17 & 23 respectively and have been barefoot for years, no hoof issues, but the farrier (natural barefoot trimmer) was just amazed at how much better their hooves were than their pasturemates who were also slopping around in the mud, full of thrush and other hoof ailments.
I used it originally on the 17yr old after being diagnosed w/EPM. I never treated him w/conventional treatments. I gave him the loading dose 2x per day, since EPM is a protozoa and MSM breaks the blood/brain barrier. Besides a few homeopathic remedies I did very early on, MSM is the only treatment he's received and either he never had EPM (possible, but if not, what was it?) or the stuff works as an anti-parasitic and anti-inflammatory. I was concerned with die-off making him worse, as many horses get worse after initiating EPM treatment due to inflammation, so many suggest to supplement w/MSM. After much research, I decided to use more MSM and skip the other stuff. That was almost 2 years ago. He shows no neurological problems and just recently the vet happily witnessed him very carefully using his back hoof to scratch a spot behind his ear without difficulty or loss of balance.
After all that research, I decided to try it for allergies in the 23yr old. I was given this horse for free because his owner could not care for a horse w/COPD as he was diagnosed. I think he was diagnosed incorrectly and he simply has seasonal allergies. Regardless, 1 scoop twice per day of MSM keeps him off steroids when he can't breathe. There were only 3 days this entire year that he needed more for his breathing. He gets a lot of irritation in his sinuses and has had bloody noses, very loud breathing, though his lungs are fine. It's localized in the sinuses and the MSM really seems to keep him in control enough that he's not doing more damage to himself by struggling to breathe w/inflamed tissue. He was a thorn in the vet's side as she could not figure out the key to his problems. He didn't fit into any of the regular categories. I don't really care anymore, since he does so well on it, it has no side effects, and it's cheap. I buy this: http://www.horse.com/item/animed-pure-msm/SLT700318%20025/?SRCCODE=MRHSGPLA&mr:trackingCode=874BC21B-FD38-DF11-BAA3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA&mr:adType=pla&mr:ad=11625252629&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=33792032189
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