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by Bhall on 27 December 2012 - 22:12
http://www.ciernysery.eu/Solid-Black-working-German-Alsatian-dog.html

by Hundmutter on 27 December 2012 - 22:12
I call BS on this. I guess someone in a Czech kennel has some black GSDs
they are paving the way for selling as a 'rare' (therefore 'better' !) dog.
Probably got pedigrees riddled with 'pure' black and white lines
developed in the UK, for money, regardless of epilepsy & HD risks,
imported by cheapskates in Czech and Slovakia area 'cos they
didn't want to buy SV dogs from Germany, or proven working DDR
lines.
Huge gaping holes in descriptions and logic, language difficulties
aside.
they are paving the way for selling as a 'rare' (therefore 'better' !) dog.
Probably got pedigrees riddled with 'pure' black and white lines
developed in the UK, for money, regardless of epilepsy & HD risks,
imported by cheapskates in Czech and Slovakia area 'cos they
didn't want to buy SV dogs from Germany, or proven working DDR
lines.
Huge gaping holes in descriptions and logic, language difficulties
aside.

by Bhall on 27 December 2012 - 23:12
This is the message they sent me.
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Removed private/personal message as per our T.O.S no. 6. mrdarcy (Admin)

by DenWolf on 28 December 2012 - 00:12
Uhhh...
Full moon??? (it is tonite...)

Full moon??? (it is tonite...)

by Cairo1 on 28 December 2012 - 01:12
Hey!! I got this too!!!! It was sent to my FB page!! I was rather perplexed. . . . And do you know what?? It IS indeed a full moon this evening!!!
I will ignore it then
Cairo1
I will ignore it then

Cairo1

by Elkoorr on 28 December 2012 - 02:12
If I understood the website correct, they are talking about the "Altdeutscher Huetehund" which is a not FCI recognized breed. They emerged more as a "mix" of breeds, specific characteristics are more bound to a geological region then to a "breed standard". So they come in different looks and different colors. Some of them look like long stockhaar german shepherds, some look more like Aussies etc. They were only bred by the true to occupation Shepherds for their use as working sheep dog.
We had one at home; he was extremely smart and protective, but also a fitter. He was all black, smaller and fuzzier than a GSD. I will see if I find an old photograph.
Edit to insert. Extreme bad quality, it was around 1989 or so. My little sister with Rex. Maybe one can make out the much bushier tail.
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We had one at home; he was extremely smart and protective, but also a fitter. He was all black, smaller and fuzzier than a GSD. I will see if I find an old photograph.
Edit to insert. Extreme bad quality, it was around 1989 or so. My little sister with Rex. Maybe one can make out the much bushier tail.
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by Hundmutter on 28 December 2012 - 11:12
Rex looks like a good old Heinz 57 to me, [sorry !] -
but its not a very clear photo.
I don't think they meant anything so specific as an
Altdeutsher Huetehund, because supporters of
that range of herding types (likely at the base of early
GSD developments) might object also ! LOL
Don't forget that the site says *their* dogs ARE
recognised. [ By the "UCI" !]
Its a scam.
Beautiful pic of the Moon, Denwolf.
but its not a very clear photo.
I don't think they meant anything so specific as an
Altdeutsher Huetehund, because supporters of
that range of herding types (likely at the base of early
GSD developments) might object also ! LOL
Don't forget that the site says *their* dogs ARE
recognised. [ By the "UCI" !]
Its a scam.
Beautiful pic of the Moon, Denwolf.

by Elkoorr on 28 December 2012 - 19:12
Well, Hundmutter.....since it is a mixed breed, one can sure call it Heinz57....LOL And thats exactly why they are not recognized by FCI.
I agree that the website trys to make you believe that its an actual breed. But their english is so broken that its difficult to tell if they are liberally wanting to scam people or if they really belief that their "black cherry" dogs are true in standard to their geographical region.
I know that there were efforts in Germany to have the Altdeutscher Huetehund recognized as well as having their own registry with papers etc. You know, its funny, I dont remember having seen that many mutts back then in Germany than I see here. Same for the animal shelters. Guess there was a certain pride in owning a full blooded papered dog, or horse, and so on.
I agree that the website trys to make you believe that its an actual breed. But their english is so broken that its difficult to tell if they are liberally wanting to scam people or if they really belief that their "black cherry" dogs are true in standard to their geographical region.
I know that there were efforts in Germany to have the Altdeutscher Huetehund recognized as well as having their own registry with papers etc. You know, its funny, I dont remember having seen that many mutts back then in Germany than I see here. Same for the animal shelters. Guess there was a certain pride in owning a full blooded papered dog, or horse, and so on.

by susie on 28 December 2012 - 22:12
Cierny Sery
Dog
Group: Herding

Pronunciation: (Slovakian, pronunciation unknown)
Breed Description: The Cierny Sery breed of dog seems to be a service dog or assistance dog that was recently created in Slovakia (eastern Europe) from several herding and police dog breeds.
The Cierny Sery breed of dog is a natural looking dog with a thin double coat. The coat should be profuse but not over done. The texture of the coat should be hard and dense, not wooly, silky, frizzy, fine or wiry. The undercoat should also be thick and profuse. The coat can be a double coat; a double coat with long hair on the ears, legs and tail; and a double coat that is rough with a mustache and bars on the jaws. The dogs are always black with small white or brown markings allowed. The dogs are elegant and balanced in appearance and resemble other elegant sheepdogs and herding dogs.
Temperament: The Cierny Sery breed of dog is athletic, strong and imposing. They are said to love people and children. They are a sensitive breed and harsh training methods do not work with them. These dogs are happiest when they have work to do.
Height: The Cierny Sery breed of dog stands up to 26 inches tall at the shoulder.
Weight: The Cierny Sery breed of dog weighs up to 66 pounds.
Exercise: The Cierny Sery breed of dog is an active working dog. They are very intelligent and love to work. They do very well at any kind of job or training. They need strenuous daily activity. Otherwise they can become restless and unhappy. If they don’t receive enough exercise they may become destructive.
Life Expectancy: No information available.
Grooming: The Cierny Sery breed of dog requires regular brushing and grooming. They are seasonal shedders and will lose great amounts of coat. During shedding you will need to groom them daily to keep hair from piling up in your house.
Origin: The Cierny Sery breed of dog has been recently created from the Belgian Shepherd, the Old German Shepherd Dog and the Schnauzer. Their primary purpose is to work as a canine assistance dog, guide dog, service dog, hearing dog and perhaps a police dog. They are currently recognized by a few European dog registries.
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The standards for all the breeds accepted to the AKC are used here for breed information, and those not part of the AKC are resourced from FCI standard information, where it is written and coded into the club rules for those breeds.
by Blitzen on 28 December 2012 - 22:12
I wonder where they got the genes from those "Old German Shepherd Dogs"?
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