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by Mr Ready on 31 October 2010 - 20:10
by Platz752 on 31 October 2010 - 21:10
Majority were shallow, chewy grips with extremely low intensity. Were these GSD's?
by Gustav on 31 October 2010 - 22:10
The number three dog of first video gave a good presntation.
All in all I will say the helpers were very careful in their work.
All in all I will say the helpers were very careful in their work.
by YogieBear on 01 November 2010 - 00:11
I am not a "show person" so forgive my ignorance in this - but what is the moral of this story? Seems like a bunch of yelling people running around - and all the men have beer guts...very k-otick..........not to mention the bite work - seems lame....the dogs go do a little "bite" and then they are more than grateful to be taken away from the helper.......very easily I might add with no ob at all......am I missing something in this competition? Or is this what the debate is on sl vs wl? Show dogs vs schutzhund ? Is it just on beauty alone on this competition?
I have a working Line Male - I have been told that I need to enter him in a conformation show - is this video what I might expect? Is this video might be something like a National schutzhund trail - not sure - but I would like to be enlightened - but I am just curious - how does a working like dog fit in to something like this.... My boy has obvious differences in the bitework section than these dogs are demonstrating.. not to mention there is no ob at all at this NASS...............are these GSD not trainable enough to learn how to strut around a ring without all the K-oss on the side lines....what is this done for?
Again, I am not trying to disrespect what show people do - but I have a interest based on the fact that I "don't know" and would like to branch out......I know my boy is capable of doing "anything" I ask of him - but I am not sure I understand what is going on in this video..........could somebody please explain what the moral of the story is?
thanks.
I have a working Line Male - I have been told that I need to enter him in a conformation show - is this video what I might expect? Is this video might be something like a National schutzhund trail - not sure - but I would like to be enlightened - but I am just curious - how does a working like dog fit in to something like this.... My boy has obvious differences in the bitework section than these dogs are demonstrating.. not to mention there is no ob at all at this NASS...............are these GSD not trainable enough to learn how to strut around a ring without all the K-oss on the side lines....what is this done for?
Again, I am not trying to disrespect what show people do - but I have a interest based on the fact that I "don't know" and would like to branch out......I know my boy is capable of doing "anything" I ask of him - but I am not sure I understand what is going on in this video..........could somebody please explain what the moral of the story is?
thanks.
by Rik on 01 November 2010 - 01:11
yogi, it is just an evaluation of structure and is not presented to be anything more.
the dogs doing the protection phase have all been trialed and titled (subject for another thread) so this is just to allow the judge to see if they have issues with character, not to score points on them It is pass/fail.
The beer guts running around the ring are the owners or trainers of the dog. This is usually referred to as double handling. The reason for this is that the judge usually gaits the dogs for a long period of time, at different speeds, to evaluate structure. No sensible dog is going to keep this up for any amount of time, unless he has a reason to do so. The beer gutted owner, praying to make one more lap without a heart attack, is the motivation for the dog to keep going.
anyway hope this helps,
Rik
wish we had one of those popcorn eating icons. bet this one goes down hill pretty fast.
the dogs doing the protection phase have all been trialed and titled (subject for another thread) so this is just to allow the judge to see if they have issues with character, not to score points on them It is pass/fail.
The beer guts running around the ring are the owners or trainers of the dog. This is usually referred to as double handling. The reason for this is that the judge usually gaits the dogs for a long period of time, at different speeds, to evaluate structure. No sensible dog is going to keep this up for any amount of time, unless he has a reason to do so. The beer gutted owner, praying to make one more lap without a heart attack, is the motivation for the dog to keep going.
anyway hope this helps,
Rik
wish we had one of those popcorn eating icons. bet this one goes down hill pretty fast.
by crhuerta on 01 November 2010 - 01:11
Rik....our "guts" are not the result of beer...LOL!
by remione1 on 01 November 2010 - 01:11
Cpt. Max von Stephanitz would be proud
by Rik on 01 November 2010 - 02:11
hi Robin, I was using yogi's description.
just learned this past week that Horand, the dog Captain Max originally intended to found the breed on was a show dog from a line of show dogs, none with titles. If he had just spent a little time on the internet, he would have known from the start that it wouldn't work.
Rik
just learned this past week that Horand, the dog Captain Max originally intended to found the breed on was a show dog from a line of show dogs, none with titles. If he had just spent a little time on the internet, he would have known from the start that it wouldn't work.
Rik
by remione1 on 01 November 2010 - 02:11
Rik,
Thanks for clarifying that for us. I didn't realize Horand had a roach, or sloped back, weak nerves, poor grip, & weak back end, so way to go. The showline today is EXACTLY what Horand "the showline dog" was. Keep up the good work, he would be proud.
Thanks for clarifying that for us. I didn't realize Horand had a roach, or sloped back, weak nerves, poor grip, & weak back end, so way to go. The showline today is EXACTLY what Horand "the showline dog" was. Keep up the good work, he would be proud.
by deacon on 01 November 2010 - 03:11
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