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by Ryanhaus on 19 October 2010 - 19:10
Hi everyone,
this is a 4 year old female spayed, the positioning is off but, you can get a general idea, my scanner couldn't fit the knees in, but like I said the positioning is off.
This is a female that the owners let get way over weigh, like over 100 pounds, but she has since slimmed down, her sister is in the 70 pound range.
The reason for my posting is that their vet said the dog needed an operation, I am not a professional in the hip department, but I strongly disagree with their vet, and I am glad they sent me the x-rays to show to my vets.
maybe mild subluxation, maybe a fair reading....that's what I see.......



this is a 4 year old female spayed, the positioning is off but, you can get a general idea, my scanner couldn't fit the knees in, but like I said the positioning is off.
This is a female that the owners let get way over weigh, like over 100 pounds, but she has since slimmed down, her sister is in the 70 pound range.
The reason for my posting is that their vet said the dog needed an operation, I am not a professional in the hip department, but I strongly disagree with their vet, and I am glad they sent me the x-rays to show to my vets.
maybe mild subluxation, maybe a fair reading....that's what I see.......




by K-9mom on 19 October 2010 - 19:10
WHAT!?!?!?!?! Surgery on those Hips??? Is she limping? Are they sure it isn't a knee problem? I have seen Hips like those work 10+ years. I think the problem is muscle where the dog was so heavy it weakened the muscle and now that she's thinner she could build it up.
JMHO
JMHO
by Nans gsd on 19 October 2010 - 20:10
The hips do not look that bad to me. I said at least fair. But I would swim this girl to build up and condition. Nan

by charlie319 on 19 October 2010 - 20:10
The problem is more likely to be veterinarian cash-flow defficiency...
As long as there is no problem with her articular surfaces, I'd try gradually conditioning her.

by Ryanhaus on 19 October 2010 - 20:10
Thanks guys, she is limping, but it could be a knee problem.
She's neg. for lyme.
She was way over weight for her frame, and the owners both take her for long hikes and walks, maybe it's just a matter of less food in the bowl.
Can you see a bad knee in an x-ray?
Or do you need ultra-sound?
I've got to get my butt to training,
but I'll scan in the knees and see if I can get a better look.....
She's neg. for lyme.
She was way over weight for her frame, and the owners both take her for long hikes and walks, maybe it's just a matter of less food in the bowl.
Can you see a bad knee in an x-ray?
Or do you need ultra-sound?
I've got to get my butt to training,
but I'll scan in the knees and see if I can get a better look.....
by mobjack on 19 October 2010 - 21:10

by trixx on 20 October 2010 - 15:10
hips look pretty decent..
by Alyson R on 20 October 2010 - 15:10
The problem is more likely to be veterinarian cash-flow defficiency
The best summary of a major problem to most dog owners these days!
The best summary of a major problem to most dog owners these days!
by Penny on 20 October 2010 - 15:10
Yes definately a problem here - it is as others suspect...... V.C.F. -
better known as Veterinary Cash Flow. Remember the lady recently who put up a dogs name as the sire of her poor pup that needed an urgent hip replacement? Was persuaded to hip score and came back with a score of 6 : 6 total? I really would have liked her to have come on and cleared the dogs name, but I think I made it clear that there wasnt a hip problem when she didnt.
How are these vets getting away with such unprofessional behaviour and advice ! I would like to know. If you take a car in for a new exhaust and you are told to replace the engine, you would be hauled over the coals as a trader I am sure, but vets are traders, just convince themselves that they are a bit posher - and they should be accountable for putting people into a state of worryat least, and un necessary suffering for dogs if the op goes along at the best. Glad this owner came to you, rather than believe the vet. Mo
better known as Veterinary Cash Flow. Remember the lady recently who put up a dogs name as the sire of her poor pup that needed an urgent hip replacement? Was persuaded to hip score and came back with a score of 6 : 6 total? I really would have liked her to have come on and cleared the dogs name, but I think I made it clear that there wasnt a hip problem when she didnt.
How are these vets getting away with such unprofessional behaviour and advice ! I would like to know. If you take a car in for a new exhaust and you are told to replace the engine, you would be hauled over the coals as a trader I am sure, but vets are traders, just convince themselves that they are a bit posher - and they should be accountable for putting people into a state of worryat least, and un necessary suffering for dogs if the op goes along at the best. Glad this owner came to you, rather than believe the vet. Mo

by kesyra on 20 October 2010 - 17:10
I would say these hips are good, not perfect, but certainly good enough not to be the cause of the limping. I would think the limp may be due to a knee injury or could it be a gracilis muscle contracture, which is common in this breed.
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