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by Bhargav on 25 July 2012 - 17:07
I had gone to a vet for vaccination of my dog last week ....He gave the vaccine , After that the next day it satrted vommiting .. so we gave her several injections ... I took her today and the vet said she has rickets .. he said he is goin to give calcium injections ....i love my puppy too much ....can any one say what must do?? i really need help!!!and is it curable ?? lyk can anyone say guarenteed that she'll recover ??
by BlackthornGSD on 25 July 2012 - 18:07
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Rickets, an imbalance of Ph, Ca and Vitamin D, is incredibly rare now that most people are feeding "complete diet" kibbles. I also am unclear on how it would be connected to vomiting after vaccinations. What have you been feeding your puppy?
Rickets, an imbalance of Ph, Ca and Vitamin D, is incredibly rare now that most people are feeding "complete diet" kibbles. I also am unclear on how it would be connected to vomiting after vaccinations. What have you been feeding your puppy?
by Hundmutter on 25 July 2012 - 18:07
JMO but I'd hold off the calcium injections and concentrate on the diet, and daylight.
If the pup has Rickets give it good (human) quality raw minced beef.
This is what my 'mentor' had to do when one pup of hers got Rickets; she took advice from someone experienced
with it in another breed (Danes if I remember right). He'd responded badly to the puppy complete he was on tho'
others in the litter were fine. It took a while to work out what it was - vets so rarely see it these days (altho I read
somewhere its been around more recently, at least in the US). He recovered but his legs were always too short & bowed.
Also get the pup sitting outside in the sunshine as much as you can. Rickets is about Vitamin D metabolisation as much
as it is the Calcium & Phosphorus ratio and too much calcium esp by injection can give its own problems with growing
bones.
If the pup has Rickets give it good (human) quality raw minced beef.
This is what my 'mentor' had to do when one pup of hers got Rickets; she took advice from someone experienced
with it in another breed (Danes if I remember right). He'd responded badly to the puppy complete he was on tho'
others in the litter were fine. It took a while to work out what it was - vets so rarely see it these days (altho I read
somewhere its been around more recently, at least in the US). He recovered but his legs were always too short & bowed.
Also get the pup sitting outside in the sunshine as much as you can. Rickets is about Vitamin D metabolisation as much
as it is the Calcium & Phosphorus ratio and too much calcium esp by injection can give its own problems with growing
bones.
by hunger4justice on 25 July 2012 - 19:07
Please do not give your dog calcium shots. You really need to go to another vet. If your dog really has rickets you are not feeding properly. Calcium shots will not correct the impoper rarios that lead to rickets and will increase the chance of dysplasia. Vomiting is either a reaction to the shot or unrelated. Be careful of giving that vaccine again and for god sake get another vet and find out what you are feeding wrong if the dog even has rickets-which I doubt.
by GSDguy08 on 25 July 2012 - 20:07
What exactly is rickets? What does it do to a dog?
by Hundmutter on 25 July 2012 - 21:07
METABOLIC DISEASES OF BONE:
Conditions generally seen in growing puppies, resulting in defective bone production. Now uncommon as most people
feed commercial diets containing adequate nutrition in correct proportions.
RICKETS
The cartilege cells of the growth plates fail to mineralise properly. They thicken; and become weak. The skeleton is
generally deficient in minerals throughout. Fractures and abnormal bending of the long bones and spine can occur. Diagnostic Xrays show widened irregular growth plates, often in severe cases of Rickets the bones show less than normal density too.
Calcium should be 1.2 in diet as is Phosphorus 1.4 - the closer the diet is to this ratio the less requirement for Vitamin
D. Since Vit D cannot be stored by the body it has to be manufactured regularly from a combination of food intake
and exposure to sunlight. Calcium helps make Vit D, but in excess you get the calcification of soft tissue which leads
to malformation of joints.
Rickets is normally treated by getting the balance of diet right, plus restricting exercise until the bones get stronger.
The OPs vet maybe thinks s/he can correct the dietary balance by giving the calcium shots, but access to the outside
world and maintaining the body's balance (and in some breeds a different balance is recommended by some vets
but I understand what you would apply to a poodle is not what is required in GSDs), and controlling active exercise, is
just as important.
EXAMPLE
The dog pup i mentioned earlier looked like an achondroplastic dwarf as he grew - his legs did not keep up with
his body. He did not LOOK 'ill'; he had clear eyes and a shiny coat etc.
An adult dog I knew in my youth (not a GSD) had apparently had Rickets and he looked fairly normal but was
left with permanent tremor for some reason.
Conditions generally seen in growing puppies, resulting in defective bone production. Now uncommon as most people
feed commercial diets containing adequate nutrition in correct proportions.
RICKETS
The cartilege cells of the growth plates fail to mineralise properly. They thicken; and become weak. The skeleton is
generally deficient in minerals throughout. Fractures and abnormal bending of the long bones and spine can occur. Diagnostic Xrays show widened irregular growth plates, often in severe cases of Rickets the bones show less than normal density too.
Calcium should be 1.2 in diet as is Phosphorus 1.4 - the closer the diet is to this ratio the less requirement for Vitamin
D. Since Vit D cannot be stored by the body it has to be manufactured regularly from a combination of food intake
and exposure to sunlight. Calcium helps make Vit D, but in excess you get the calcification of soft tissue which leads
to malformation of joints.
Rickets is normally treated by getting the balance of diet right, plus restricting exercise until the bones get stronger.
The OPs vet maybe thinks s/he can correct the dietary balance by giving the calcium shots, but access to the outside
world and maintaining the body's balance (and in some breeds a different balance is recommended by some vets
but I understand what you would apply to a poodle is not what is required in GSDs), and controlling active exercise, is
just as important.
EXAMPLE
The dog pup i mentioned earlier looked like an achondroplastic dwarf as he grew - his legs did not keep up with
his body. He did not LOOK 'ill'; he had clear eyes and a shiny coat etc.
An adult dog I knew in my youth (not a GSD) had apparently had Rickets and he looked fairly normal but was
left with permanent tremor for some reason.
by GSDguy08 on 25 July 2012 - 22:07
Thanks for explaining. One more question, how much "sun" would be ideal for a dog to get his daily vitamin D otherwise? I ask because I've heard what it is with humans (how much sun exposure is enough for the daily amount of D), but I'm curious if they know for dogs.
by TingiesandTails on 25 July 2012 - 23:07
Get a second opinion! Rickets is extremely rare indeed and usually associated with malnutrition! Vomiting after vaccination sounds like a very classical adverse vaccine reaction, but many vets still deny responsibility.
Here are article you might find interesting:
http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/08/06/treating-adverse-vaccine-reactions-by-jean-dodds-dvm/
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=527
Hope your dog recovers soon!
Here are article you might find interesting:
http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/08/06/treating-adverse-vaccine-reactions-by-jean-dodds-dvm/
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=527
Hope your dog recovers soon!
by guddu on 26 July 2012 - 01:07
Change your vet, Indian dogs dont get rickets...very rare.
by LOVE THY SHEPHERD on 26 July 2012 - 01:07
Have u contacted the person that u got the puppy from ? I would see if they will take
the puppy back and give u a healthy one.
JMO
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