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by Rass on 13 June 2012 - 14:06
Now.. if you have a ton of money and homes for all the puppies, you could take the F1 generation and breed back on WL and then again on the F2 generation.. but now you have probably gone back into the dogs looking and working like WL dogs and MAYBE.. just MAYBE you will get the conformation to come forward but probably not.
To breed dogs one thing you need to be is a very very sharp culler. If you are breeding SL dogs, then you need to cull anything and everything that has any show of a lack of nerve and courage and still be careful about conformation. If you are breeding WL dogs you need to cull everything that is weak in conformation and those that lack G.O. Breeding dogs means a LOT more culling than keeping!! Culling BTW means selling to pet homes and not breeding weak dogs.
The dogs that are being used for breeding could easily be halved today and the breed would benefit. JMO. No one need agree.
by charlie319 on 13 June 2012 - 14:06
As far as his Slovak breed survey is concerned, I'm not privy to that information, but from what I understand, he's sired a couple of litters and someone who's worked dogs from them said that they have proper aggression and excellent drives.
BTW, Darius is a fine looking dog, at least what little can be seen on his PDB picture. He's also a product of what can happen when good quality dogs are used on both sides of these WL/SL crosses. Congratulations on a fine breeding. Good conformation and good working and social temperament is what all breeders should be aiming for.
Bob:
I posted the videos I saw above. I did not say "many good dogs", but "In this case, we have a very good male with very good working dogs in his pedigree and VA conformation" I like that Leon has Basko vom Deninghauserpark, Esko vom Danishen Hoff and Timo vom Berrekasten in his pedigree. On paper, he should be quite nice and pass on some excellent traits. On the other hand, the dam is of solid conformation and produces very nice pups with very good drives.
I have not personally seen Leon's offspring, but I've been told that he produces good temperament and drives by someone who's worked his pups from several dams.
IMPO, I'd think that the breeding is aimed at a "Universal Sieger" type dog. Fairly high placing in both conformation and work.
by VKGSDs on 13 June 2012 - 14:06
by UglyK9 on 13 June 2012 - 14:06
by Felloffher on 13 June 2012 - 15:06
This dog isn't breed worthy.
by djc on 13 June 2012 - 15:06
Perhaps you should go back and find the thread on show lines that produce good work? Timo and Esko are not among the ones on that list. I see Quartz by Amigo in the back, but that is the only good working show lines I see in the sire's pedigree. Could be wrong, as I don't know everything about every dog, but the ones mentioned I know to be true.
I love the dam's pedigree!! But she needs A LOT of compensation in the conformation department. I don't think the short coat, light bone and average angulation of the sire will be enough to compensate.
BUT who knows, maybe a pup or 2 will come up with all the good stuff! Good luck!
Debby
by cage on 13 June 2012 - 15:06
by judron55 on 13 June 2012 - 16:06
by ziegenfarm on 13 June 2012 - 16:06
pjp
@charlie, i just wanted to make sure you undersdtood that the link i posted was not a breeding i did.....it is one that i like very much. the dogs are owned by kandi jacopino and dee clark.
by UglyK9 on 13 June 2012 - 16:06
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/ger
man_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=706200
From one of very few Yoschy Grandsons in the country. It was a 3-4 on Yoschy......Should have repeated that breading
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