http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=1806394

Has been consumated...


I've always said that the basic problem with most SL/WL breedings is that usually one mate is of much better quality than the other.  Occasionally, we see a breeding where both parents are of better than good quality.  In this case, we have a very good male with very good working dogs in his pedigree and VA conformation.  While he has not been bred that much, my understanding is that his pups have very good work in protection.   On the dam side, we have a well accomplished WL female, also of excellent breeding, temperament and comformation.  The female is a proven producer of dogs with excellent temperament. While I would speculate that this breediing should produce some very attractive candidates for IPO sport and Personal Protection, I'm interested to hear the opinions of others on this breeding.

Charlie


I will take all the pups here in Texas and you can be free of some great working pups"!!!!!

   U  of course , are aware this lower pedigree is where  

G Zidane vom Haus Sevens came from?

  which I was told a few weeks ago   ZIDANE went on the RAINBOW BRIDGE  a little while back..

  YOU will have a good litter to research on and let us know how the end result meets your EXPECTATIONS..

 And the two dogs in my avitar are products of your top dog back to the
  Pedigrees of my WLwg/slWG mix of Buseckerschloss, Cadett and Zilla v Wiethurchen/then with Bear Jerome /uran son and I then added a Tiekerhook Gr son so I can say ....I would think you hit the   MEGA JACKPOT...

KEEP us informed .
  YR

  I saw the old  line many have mixed feelings about

   SEE  the black spot on the two culprits on avitars TONGUE..???

  HAVE TO  blame someone somewhere...I chose to Blame the SteffenHaus,/ENCLAVEHOF, BuseckerSchloss /Wiethurchen mix/?

  I will roll the dice on your good selection !!!

VA5 Lasso di Val Sole   on the top line and I chuckled.

yr

not a breeding i would have done.  while i am not totally against wl/sl crosses, i don't feel this particular breeding has any defined goals. 
when doing such a breeding, it is absolutely imperative that the showline portion carry sufficient strength of nerve to sustain the aggression found in the workingline portion.  what we do not want to see in wl/sl crosses are high drive dogs, with low thresholds and aggression.  sorry, but you asked and i am just being honest.  i hope i am wrong & they all turn out fabulous.
pjp

***here is an example of a wl/sl cross that i really like.  just for the info:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=709279&p=5-generation-pedigree



 

Leon failed Slovak breed survey test twice,then they did SV BST with him /a lot of SL owners do so in Slovakia as SV test is easier /.

Leon failed Slovak breed survey test twice...

well, that speaks volumes....personally, if I was going to do such a breeding, I'd have to know both dogs very well...not saying that you don't:-) Have you ever worked the male...or seen him work?

@ pjp now that is a nice wl/sl breeding because of the great nerve strength of Hannes thru Doc, and Gipsi has a very nice pedigree of strong nerves Sl dogs in addition to being proven herself,jmo

 Charlie:

                  By what definition do you define" His pups have very good work in protection" and "many good working dogs in his pedigree" This is the crux of the whole issue. Is it working to the sport? to the standard? I guess it all comes back to the issue of work definition.

Here is his Slovak BST in Vyhne,it was the 2nd time he failed BST - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbpHX-DWJ9Y&feature=youtu.be

 Just watched the video and got my answer.