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by Judy P on 04 January 2012 - 16:01
After all of the stuff with Chrissy and Kaiser I am not sure who you should trust when you go to purchase a puppy. I do like the Czech dogs and I was leaning towards getting a puppy through Hans despite the cost involved. Obviously I will not be going that route. I have attempted to contact another kennel in the Czech Republic and got no response so despite the fact this was the first choice for me I have given up.
Unfortunately most of the people I know breed showline dogs which I do not want despite the fact I have been offered a couple.
I have answered a few ads on here including one that I was very interested in only to find out puppies did not have AKC reg. I guess I got very very lucky with my Malinois. The breeder I bought my male from is wonderful and totally honest. The female I imported from Croatia as she was exactly what I wanted. I know there has to be an honest GSD breeder out there I just have to keep looking.
Unfortunately most of the people I know breed showline dogs which I do not want despite the fact I have been offered a couple.
I have answered a few ads on here including one that I was very interested in only to find out puppies did not have AKC reg. I guess I got very very lucky with my Malinois. The breeder I bought my male from is wonderful and totally honest. The female I imported from Croatia as she was exactly what I wanted. I know there has to be an honest GSD breeder out there I just have to keep looking.
by gagsd4 on 04 January 2012 - 16:01
If you train regularly with a club, then chances are you will get to know people who can import for you, or know people who know people.
I have met quite a few people training and attending trials that I would call on if I wanted assistance importing.
I have met quite a few people training and attending trials that I would call on if I wanted assistance importing.
by workingdogz on 04 January 2012 - 16:01
Judy P wrote:
"The breeder I bought my male from is wonderful and totally honest. The female I imported from Croatia as she was exactly what I wanted"
Contact THAT breeder and ask THEM to find you a good GSD, and offer a finders fee/pay expenses etc.
It's about networking, utilizing the relationships you have made, but be fair and offer to compensate.
They may not accept your offer to compensate, but will apprecate you recognized that they were going out of their way for you.
"The breeder I bought my male from is wonderful and totally honest. The female I imported from Croatia as she was exactly what I wanted"
Contact THAT breeder and ask THEM to find you a good GSD, and offer a finders fee/pay expenses etc.
It's about networking, utilizing the relationships you have made, but be fair and offer to compensate.
They may not accept your offer to compensate, but will apprecate you recognized that they were going out of their way for you.
by judron55 on 04 January 2012 - 17:01
Try Grayblack kennels or Vikar or Sorbon Majoruv haj....I have contacted them in the last month and all responded.
by GSDPACK on 04 January 2012 - 17:01
I can contact hem for you, PM me I can tell them to look out for your email. That is NOT a problem....
If you dont know if you can trust me..well that one all I can tell, don't trust anybody! Lately I have found out this is the "motto of the business"....
by sable59 on 04 January 2012 - 17:01
pm desertdog, he has an honest breeder that is in czech
by Two Moons on 04 January 2012 - 17:01
Trust no one,
unless you do business in person you will always be taking some risk.
unless you do business in person you will always be taking some risk.
by Jenni78 on 04 January 2012 - 17:01
Oh, yeah. Nobody gets screwed in person. 
I have never been screwed on a dog I shipped or imported. Never really been screwed on a dog, period, actually, but while buying in person might be a little more secure, I see no real difference between that and buying from someone over the phone w/a pristine reputation. If the puppy has health problems and you have warranty issues, then what does it matter if you bought it face to face or via phone or email? It doesn't. All that matters is how it's handled. There have been lots of threads about people buying in person and then suddenly the breeder vanishes.
I would buy from someone with a "presence" and nothing to hide, personally.
For the record, I would trust GSDpack...though I often don't agree with her opinions, I would trust her as far as buying a dog. Trust and getting along with someone are 2 different things. I think people are often mystified by charisma and don't do their homework. I don't care if I buy the dog from a total @ss as long as they're honest.
I have never been screwed on a dog I shipped or imported. Never really been screwed on a dog, period, actually, but while buying in person might be a little more secure, I see no real difference between that and buying from someone over the phone w/a pristine reputation. If the puppy has health problems and you have warranty issues, then what does it matter if you bought it face to face or via phone or email? It doesn't. All that matters is how it's handled. There have been lots of threads about people buying in person and then suddenly the breeder vanishes.
I would buy from someone with a "presence" and nothing to hide, personally.
For the record, I would trust GSDpack...though I often don't agree with her opinions, I would trust her as far as buying a dog. Trust and getting along with someone are 2 different things. I think people are often mystified by charisma and don't do their homework. I don't care if I buy the dog from a total @ss as long as they're honest.
by GSD2727 on 04 January 2012 - 18:01
I am kind of confused why so many people on this board (and in general) are so quick to look to huge brokers and people who have so many dogs. The FIRST thing I would look for when looking for a breeder is a smaller breeder who has and works his/her own dogs. There are so many excellent breeders in the United States now that have excellent dogs and are breeding excellent litters. Why not look to some of these breeders who want to get their puppies into good working homes?
Even if you go with a German breeder, thats fine... but why go with the huge broker business type people? I guess I dont understand the appeal?
Valerie
Even if you go with a German breeder, thats fine... but why go with the huge broker business type people? I guess I dont understand the appeal?
Valerie
by workingdogz on 04 January 2012 - 18:01
Valerie
I think a lot of people go outside of the US because some of the breeders (mainly seems like the larger mass producing ones) tend to place
so many "restrictions" and contract requirements upon their pups. It's just easier and less hassle to buy outside the USA most times.
Here, breeders charge $1500+ for a pup, they want you to fill out some lengthy questionaire, then sign a 450 page contract, and essentially according to the contract THEY still "own" the dog, does this mean we the consumer are just "renting"?
Ooops, forgot, some of the larger more commercial breeders, Kraftwerk as an example just require payment in full and a shipping address
They want to sell pups on limited AKC, but charge prime dollar.
We don't breed. We did sparingly in the past years ago, but just because we purchase a puppy with "open" registration doesn't mean we will breed said pup. We just want to own what we pay for, lock stock and barrel, good bad and ugly.
I think the best laugh we get is the breeders who don't work/title their dogs, that breed untitled (and oft times dogs that are not xrayed) that want to sell pups on limited registration?
In the long run, it works out to be the same $wise or sometimes "cheaper" to buy outside of the country.
Novices tend to go with the "broker" types, it gives them a sometimes false sense of security.
I think a lot of people go outside of the US because some of the breeders (mainly seems like the larger mass producing ones) tend to place
so many "restrictions" and contract requirements upon their pups. It's just easier and less hassle to buy outside the USA most times.
Here, breeders charge $1500+ for a pup, they want you to fill out some lengthy questionaire, then sign a 450 page contract, and essentially according to the contract THEY still "own" the dog, does this mean we the consumer are just "renting"?
Ooops, forgot, some of the larger more commercial breeders, Kraftwerk as an example just require payment in full and a shipping address
They want to sell pups on limited AKC, but charge prime dollar.
We don't breed. We did sparingly in the past years ago, but just because we purchase a puppy with "open" registration doesn't mean we will breed said pup. We just want to own what we pay for, lock stock and barrel, good bad and ugly.
I think the best laugh we get is the breeders who don't work/title their dogs, that breed untitled (and oft times dogs that are not xrayed) that want to sell pups on limited registration?
In the long run, it works out to be the same $wise or sometimes "cheaper" to buy outside of the country.
Novices tend to go with the "broker" types, it gives them a sometimes false sense of security.
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