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by frankow on 10 September 2011 - 20:09
How do you breed a 'dark sable' if neither sire or dam are sable?
by Jenni78 on 10 September 2011 - 20:09
Seriously?
by AmbiiGSD on 10 September 2011 - 21:09
You don't!
by yellowrose of Texas on 10 September 2011 - 21:09
AMEN
UNless you can further explain what you meant]
YOu might give a pedigree and see if maybe the dam or sire is mistakenly identified.
You would be surprised how many pups get mistakenly written up as bLK /red or blk/tan and they are sable..especially Patterned Sables, which when I first started this venture, I didn't know what Patterned Sable was.
YR
UNless you can further explain what you meant]
YOu might give a pedigree and see if maybe the dam or sire is mistakenly identified.
You would be surprised how many pups get mistakenly written up as bLK /red or blk/tan and they are sable..especially Patterned Sables, which when I first started this venture, I didn't know what Patterned Sable was.
YR
by Ibrahim on 10 September 2011 - 21:09
I think he meant to say (how do you produce a dark sable if neither of parents is sable), assuming the English of OP is a Second language, anyway if I'm mistaken then I apologize.
If that is your question then the answer is you can not, at least you need one sable parent to produce some sable puppies. And to produce a dark (black) sable you need one sable parent and the other parent either black or has black as a recessive gene. In some cases you do get a dark sable without having black recessive gene but that is less probable.
Ibrahim
If that is your question then the answer is you can not, at least you need one sable parent to produce some sable puppies. And to produce a dark (black) sable you need one sable parent and the other parent either black or has black as a recessive gene. In some cases you do get a dark sable without having black recessive gene but that is less probable.
Ibrahim
by GSDguy08 on 10 September 2011 - 23:09
I think they meant what Ibrahim said as well.
by yellowrose of Texas on 11 September 2011 - 00:09
Thor, dark sable, is in the back MIDDLE..HIS dam is ZU on the right Looking at the picture.
BOZO is also son of Zu,BLK/tan, and same Sire as THOR..Moore's Konig, sable
Moore's Konig in front and Zu in back...sire and dam of all the dogs in the pictures on this thread..some sable some Black/tan/rdKonigs dam was RED SABLE
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=506117
by Ibrahim on 11 September 2011 - 00:09
In the first picture they really look one family, how adorable they are looking at the camera and being good kids 
Ibrahim
Ibrahim
by pod on 11 September 2011 - 08:09
Ah no, if this is a serious question, then yes there are ways of producing dark sable offspring from non sable parents.
Firstly dominant black. If this is now in the breed (it has yet to be confirmed by DNA analysis AFAIK) a dom black can carry sable and this bred to a recessive black could produce dark sable.
Also white, recessive ee in the GSD. This can also 'hide' the sable pattern, so a dog carrying sable bred to a recessive black, or a dominant black carrying rec black, could produce dark sable. And agree with Ibraham, modifyers could produce the dark pigment without the need for the presence of rec black.
Firstly dominant black. If this is now in the breed (it has yet to be confirmed by DNA analysis AFAIK) a dom black can carry sable and this bred to a recessive black could produce dark sable.
Also white, recessive ee in the GSD. This can also 'hide' the sable pattern, so a dog carrying sable bred to a recessive black, or a dominant black carrying rec black, could produce dark sable. And agree with Ibraham, modifyers could produce the dark pigment without the need for the presence of rec black.
by pt1 on 11 September 2011 - 21:09
A white (if masking sable) can produce sable progeny
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