Question on American Line female german shepherd? - Page 1

Hi

I have 2.5 year old American line female GSD, she has an extreme high drive and she is extreme aggressive towards other dogs and very aggressive towards strangers - even myself I have being caution with her.

The good side of her - she is extreme obedient, I only have to tell her once and she listens to me - even going far places away from home, like parks, lakes, also going to the vet. I have to tell her onces and rarely twice and she obeys me with respect.
She is about 75 pounds right now, I got her since she was a pup.

I thought American lines not supposed to have a high drive like German working line dogs? (She almost never wants to rest always running and jumping)

Based on my description of my female, are American line GSD supposed to be like that - I'm asking because I never own American line GSD before in my life.

Thanks in advance :-)

I don't have her file posted here on pedigreedatabase webside
But here is her grandfather: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=536240

There's generalizations, and then there's the traits of the individual.  *Generally*, most people who are into the European lines (show or working) tend to think of the American line dogs as either sloths or spooks.  While the breeders of the American lines haven't been selecting for prey or defense drives or civilness over the years, that's not to say that some degree of those traits don't still exist within those lines, and are expressed in individual dogs.  And among the American lines, you have those which were bred with an eye toward the breed ring, and those which were bred with obedience competition in mind...you'll typically see more drive in the latter type, along with biddability (responsiveness to training).

Did you get to spend any time with your female's sire and/or dam before you got her? If so, what were *they* like as far as their activity levels went?  Were they busybodies, too? Even if they weren't, perhaps one her grandparents were, or an aunt or uncle...  At just 2.5 years, too, she may be one of the slower to mature type, too, and once she hits 3-4 years of age may mellow out some (though she probably will never be a couch potato).

Well, the guy where I bought her from, all of his GSD's was with high drive.
Her dad was 2 at that time but her mom was 8 years old at that time and they seem to be very active and trying to please their owner but at the same time aggressive to me.

The 8 year old mom is her father that I gave a link above but he is grandfather for my dog.

Here is the picture of my high drive female that I have :-)

Well, this will give you the bottom side of the grandsire's pedigree:

http://www.pets4you.com/pages/kimmelot/kimmelotfero.html

Grandsire was/is primarily American breed/specialty show type.  Sounds like your female's parents were both 'busybody' sorts who liked to work for their person, so it would be reasonable that your female would be likewise.

Thanks,

But my other question if I'm not mistaking I was reading articles online about American line supposed to be more calm?

Very pretty girl, Shtal...from this angle, it seems she's not extreme in angulation in the rear, looks like she's got a nice shoulder on her as well (the American showlines often tend toward straighter shoulders); very feminine head with nice expression, lovely pigmentation, medium bone, and generally pretty well-balanced looking overall.  Coat also appears to have a nice density and texture, too.

I breeded my dog, Here is the picture of the son from my female, he also has an extreme high drive, he is 6.5 months in this picture.

Again, what you're referring to is really just a generalization.  While the European breeders have to [try to] keep more prey drive in the lines because the breeding stock has to be able to obtain at least a SchH1, the American show lines had/have no such incentive so it's not something that is *generally* selected for.  The American show lines still retain the breed's instinct to protect their people and property, though the intensity of this protectiveness will vary among dogs and among bloodlines.

That said, individual breeders using American show lines may well lean toward selecting the dogs with higher drive when choosing breeding stock simply because that's what *they* prefer, and what they want to produce.  From your description of the parents your girl came from, I'd have to say it sounds as if the breeder *prefers* and breeds *for* the increased drive and the lower aggression threshhold, given that is what you saw displayed by both the young sire AND the mature brood bitch entering her senior years.  I'd suspect that the rest of the litter were similarly or even more busy than your girl, with *maybe* one or two that were less active.

I appreciate your help :-)

Edit: He had 2 pups left when I came to buy her, one male and one female.