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Gusmanda

by Gusmanda on 04 August 2011 - 16:08

How come most working line dogs seems to all have Fero vom Zeuterner Himmelreich in their pedigree? Was he THAT much better than his peers? Please excuse me if it's an obvious question, I'm somewhat new to working lines.

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 04 August 2011 - 18:08

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/bulletins_read/239799.html


Here is an interesting older thread on Fero.

What I hadn't noticed before are the comments on his pedigree.


by bubbabooboo on 01 April 2011 - 19:04

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Of Fero's full and half sibling listed in this database (probably more not listed) about 50% had bad hips
 
 


V Fero vom Zeuterner Himmelreich
by bubbabooboo on 01 April 2011 - 19:04

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I think someone gave Fero a hip upgrade .. I believe in fact they were fast normal and there were plenty of bad hips in his vertical pedigree
 
 

 

darylehret

by darylehret on 04 August 2011 - 19:08

Of Fero's full and half sibling listed in this database (probably more not listed) about 50% had bad hips 
 

That's pretty much a picture of the overall breed average (not just Fero), and why selective breeding can do (and has done) better.  Many descending lines from Fero are now the among best hip producers available.  Basically, no one's buying direct descendents of Fero, for this to be any sort of concern.  Good grips and natural aggression are traits he was selected for, and his descending lines have maintained these characteristics very well. 


Bundishep

by Bundishep on 04 August 2011 - 20:08

Very well said darylehret,I couldnt have said it better.Fero in my bloodlines are much desired and I do care about sound hips.

Gusmanda

by Gusmanda on 05 August 2011 - 03:08

Thanks guys! appreciate the info. What does a dog do to catch the attention of so many breeders? Did he win a competition that made him become noticeable to everyone? I wonder how he stood out so much that there are over a thousand descendants of his. It caught my attention to see the name so much in the pedigrees, but when I saw the amount of proginee, wow!

by vom ost see on 05 August 2011 - 18:08

why not....someone saw that this dog produced the qualities they desired and consistant results were seen thru various bitches...surely they(the pups) weren't all good,but enough good dogs were produced to merit continued breeding thru this dog...i prefer "FERO",thru "TROLL"...not to wild about "TIMMY"... but to each his own...FERO had so many breedings that i don't see how he had time to train,but evidently he did..and now it's hard to find a working dog without  FERO in the pedigree....i've seen some great dogs linebred on FERO.. but the same can be said for MINK,GILDO,GREIF... to a degree,i know what to expect with some of these dogs,and i rely on that when i purchace or breed.

Gusmanda

by Gusmanda on 05 August 2011 - 19:08

I guess "a dogs life" must to have been so bad when refering to Fero, wonder how many times the dog must have been bred...

Bundishep

by Bundishep on 05 August 2011 - 19:08

Fero was in the BSP one time that i can see in 1987 with score of 288 which gave him 18th place,100 in tracking,96 in Ob,and 92 in protection,sometimes a dog doesnt have to place first for a great breeder to know what triats he or she wants to have in the pups,first does not always mean the best dog and first does not always mean the ability to throw great working temperment,that has been shown time and time again.Proof is in the puppys.






 


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