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Videx

by Videx on 09 May 2011 - 12:05


The Science of Vaccine Damage
By Catherine O’Driscoll
  A team at Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine conducted several studies 1,2 to determine if vaccines can cause changes in the immune system of dogs that might lead to life-threatening immune-mediated diseases. They obviously conducted this research because concern already existed. It was sponsored by the Haywood Foundation which itself was looking for evidence that such changes in the human immune system might also be vaccine induced. It found the evidence.

The vaccinated, but not the non-vaccinated, dogs in the Purdue studies developed autoantibodies to many of their own biochemicals, including fibronectin, laminin, DNA, albumin, cytochrome C, cardiolipin and collagen.
This means that the vaccinated dogs —but not the non-vaccinated dogs—were attacking their own fibronectin, which is involved in tissue repair, cell multiplication and growth, and differentiation between tissues and organs in a living organism.


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by brynjulf on 09 May 2011 - 15:05

Yes , vaccines can and do cause horrible problems.  I worked with a fantastic Vet named Sally Lester DVM.  She ownes the research lab where I live.  The proof of the damage casued is absolutely concrete. BUT in our area we have Parvo big time.  The weather conditions here as just perfect for it.  Even she recommends that Parvo is a must do. Sort of the lesser of 2 evils.  

realmccoy

by realmccoy on 09 May 2011 - 15:05

What really sucks where i live - is the county requires for you to get a dog license which you can't do without raibes vaccination.
If you get pulled over for any moving violation or someone calls the cops on a dog barking noise complaint, they can ask for a dog license for the dog in the vehicle or home- if you dont have one its a fine, and they keep fining you until you get the licence and show it to them as proof.
I have avoided getting my 6 months olds vaccinated so far, but once they hit a year old I will have to do it.


TingiesandTails

by TingiesandTails on 10 May 2011 - 05:05

Thanks for the link!


steve1

by steve1 on 10 May 2011 - 07:05

How many times do you hear that this product is not good for the health of the People, a few years later OH' we made a mistake it is good, NEVER believe all you read. It does not matter where you read the info or who has done the tests, Vaccination has been going on a long time How many Dogs would have died without Vaccinations,
But to get to the real nitty gritty of this, How about Vaccinations of all kinds being stopped for Dogs. and why do you bother to get your Kids vaccinated, because it is no different, the only difference is they are Humans no other way, So how about all Vaccinations stopping for Humans as well. after all the why do they need them
The world would be in a sorry state very quickly, As would the world of the Dogs in a few years time. The old Bunkum of the strongest will survive it not rubbish It is the lucky ones who survive.
I have owned dogs for over 60 years, I cannot say when i first vaccinated the first dogs but it has been some time, but i do remember in those early days distemper was rife and there was no cure the dog was doomed to die naturally or by the vet
I have never had any setback with any dog over that period of time through Vaccinations the shortest life span of any Dog was over 11 years old my very first dog born in 1949, However every dog since then lived from 13 years up to over 16 years old You cannot get better than that. Remember your Dog cannot help its self its life is in your hands so to speak.
 It is for you to decide if you vaccinate or not against anything. Only your conscious can be your guide NOT some one telling you in a Paper or  on Television
Steve1

by Penny on 10 May 2011 - 09:05

Steve1 says

"why do you bother to get your Kids vaccinated",

Steve, I hear what you are saying, but kids dont get vaccinated every year !.      The immunity is put there, and is thrived upon in their babyhood, then various other levels - metered out carefully are given - and of course, the childs well being is taken into consideration as to family history of seizures, reactions, phelylketonuria sufferers, even severe allergic reactions by third generation back members etc etc etc before giving the vaccine.   There is no such good anticedence on animals like most kids parents would know from time gone by, so animal reactions to various vaccines are much more at risk, and they ae being given YEARLY - whether or not, and the only check is dogs well being on the day, heart and weight if you are lucky.

It is vets bread and butter I`m afraid, and with the wide variation in prices compared to the buying price, I have no reason to believe that most vets wouldnt want them to continue....

When your child gets to around 5 years of age, they are finished with - and three score years and ten years later, they are still expected to have that immunity.    Whats so different about canines in that respect? 

As far as I am concerned anyone wishing to have their dog vaccinated yearly should have a blood test first done, to check out their immunity level.   That would be the right way of going about it, and then to decide whether it is required or not on that basis, but its not done.  It is well known that the first vaccines are wasted if done too early and the dog has full immunity still from mothers feeding.

Its not about cost - its about animal health and going overboard.  My dogs have their first vaccination as puppies, as late as I can leave it without altering their socialisation needs, by using homeopathic vaccine early on, and then they follow up at 12 months with a booster, and then thats it.   They dont seem to have had any problem, and this is how I`ve done things for many many years.     Mo.

Abby Normal

by Abby Normal on 10 May 2011 - 10:05

My vet does not recommend annual vaccinations. My dogs are all in middle age now, and both he and I consider their immunity to be adequate due to past vaccination.  Consequently, I no longer vaccinate my dogs.


by Penny on 10 May 2011 - 10:05

Hurrah for a great vet that sees things as they really are Abbey.    Guess he is too far from us to be useful?  Where is he?  Mo.

steve1

by steve1 on 10 May 2011 - 12:05

The point being that many on this Forum are very scathing of Vets in general.
Yet they are the self proclaimed experts who will run to the Vet when there dog is ill beyond there know how of what to do, Yet they openly scorn vets
What People should do is to follow what they think is correct If they feel so much against Vaccination then do not do it even once, Forget all Vaccinations and those who Vaccinate one time are not experts, they are readers of books and writings and they follow what they read rather than take notice of there own Vet in many cases.
For my Dogs the only time they go to a vet is for booster jabs, I DO not take them to a vet for anything else Wormers are now periodically are made up by myself, I use plants from the Country side and make my own and things like that. I never get any health problems with the Dogs so my Vet sees very little of them perhaps once a year for a checkup which is just a way of saying they are still here.
However saying that the Vets know better than you or i do they are trained and have spent a lot of time doing just that.
I really despair at times how much some people owning dogs really know just the basic way of keeping these animals in good healthy condition it really does not need ANY effort at all.
How many times on this Forum have you read about some ones dog going down with Parvo it really is the irresponsibility of the owner, I have great sympathy for the Dog in such cases who cannot help its self, but never for the Owner, if i had my way they would be banned from ever owning a dog again
For me i will go along with 60 years of experience owning Dogs in good health throughout there lives, and keeping them in good health and all died at a good old age, due to old age, Everyone to there own, over and out on this thread
Steve1

violet

by violet on 10 May 2011 - 12:05

My new vet where i just moved to said they only booster vaccinate yearly against leptospirosis. they do the other core ones such as parvo and distemper every three years as they say those two have a two year 'life span'. My previous vet did this aswell, however my new vet did say they only recommend lepto every year if you know your dogs is likely to be running around in dirty water, and it's likely they dont need vaccinating past middle-age. I plan on titre testing my dogs every year from now on, just to be sure.

I'm quite aware of the problems vaccinating can bring, which is why i'm glad i have vets who dont vaccinate just for the extra income. In my mind i'd rather be safe than sorry with my dogs, but i also don't agree with over vaccinating. I think it should be made clear what each vaccination does and how long it works for. Unfortunately not enough people ask the side effects of what vaccinations can do, I only started questioning it myself in the last year. If vets legally have to tell you the side effects of medications and GA's, sedation etc, they should be legally bound to when it comes to vaccinations also. Either that or the information should be more readily available. Of course it could also lead to people getting scared about it, then we'd get less people vaccinating and a big upsurge of all those nasty diseases again. I'd like to see the numbers of dogs that come down with these diseases if not vaccinated.  Thing is the vaccinations are not also a guarantee against parvo etc. We had a parvo outbreak in the last area i lived, luckily we escaped it, but alot of the dogs affected were also vaccinated. Nothing is guaranteed.





 


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