Titles being recognized - Page 1

Hypothetical question.  So one title being earned with one scorebook (SCHI) and then the same team goes to another trial for let's say a SCH II...so now the scorebook does not match the hosting club.  I am leaving out parent club organizations so the thread does not get deleted again.  Basically, what I am wanting is to compete in all GSD organizations (both ways, actually all ways)...without having to be mindful of parent club affiliation and titles being recognized or not. 

I'm not sure about the clubs in the U.S. but as far as I know the scorebooks are printed by different head organizations. I guess you have to ask the the different organizations if they accept your original scorebook entries.

  USCA and AWDF work together if you belong to one, you can trial in the other at the club level. For regionals and Nationals, you must belong to a club.
  GSDCA/WDA is a separate organization and I believe you must hold membership in their organization in order to trial. The same for DVG. I hope this helps you.

Join either the SV or GSDCA-WDA and the WDA and get one of the new GSDCA-WDA scorebooks. Have USA certify it. You can go anywhere.

Dog1 a question for you:  Would not the same thing be accomplished by joining UScA,  since UScA is  a member of  WUSV? 

Also, as a UScA member you could trial at any AWDF trial, including any AWDF member club trials, like DVG club trials, but correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think the same holds true for WDA members, since AWDF has nothing to do with WUSV?

richram:  I believe DVG is also a member of AWDF, so I think USA members can trial at DVG club trials with their USA scorebook, but would have to be members of a DVG club to trial at the DVG Regional or DVG National level maybe?

oi !  It's all so damn complicated !!

So UScA will certify scorebooks from the GSDCA-WDA?  So do I need to be mindful of the judge affiliation then for titles to be honored across club affiliations?  I have gotten some advise that is contrary to this.  I can then also take this new WDA scorebook to the AWDFs if I choose or a DVG trial?  I have heard that the UScA scorebook will work no problem in Germany with some sort of form from the SV.  Is the same true with the new GSDCA-WDA book?  

richram-You say that you need to be a member of a club...are you meaning not a member at large or just affiliated with a parent organization?

Auch jemanden der mit der SV Mitglied ist kann auch antworten.  Ich könnte auch wieder im SV Mitglied werden und ein Prüfungsheft so bekommen...oder nicht?  Muss ich auch Mitglied bei einer Ortsgruppe sein...wie geht es mit dem Ausland Mitgliedschaft?

  

Sue,

The problem with joining USA is; once you do, You can't join the GSDCA or the WDA as they are competing German Shepherd organizations in the US. Thus you will be limited to only USA events. The question here is how do participate in all the events legally. There's no way to do it if you're a USA member. You have to give your money to another organization to participate in USA events if you want the flexibility to compete everywhere in the US.

Heidi,

USA accepts the new GSDCA-WDA book, bear in mind it needs to be USA certified to go to both organizations events. The DVG is affiliated with USA, It should work, not sure about the AWDF.

The SV is probably more concerned with who signed the book rather than what organization is on the cover.

I'm not getting it, I am having a blonde senior moment.   If WUSV requires all it's members accept each other into their trials then what is the advantage to belonging to WDA over USA?  Doesn't that mean both GSDCA WDA and USA must accept each other in their trials now?  

I don't think GSDCA WDA members can trial in AWDF trials because they aren't  members, but USA and DVG are members of AWDF, so if you belong to USA, you can trial at DVG or any other AWDF member club trials. 

Thanks for your patience in getting this through my thick head!

Good info to know. 

Sue,

It's confusing isn't it....The deciding factor is the limitation USA puts on it's members. You cannot be a member of USA and join a competing US German Shepherd club. You or a co owner must be a WDA member to compete in a WDA event. The situation does a bit of a flip. Since you have to be a WDA member to compete in a WDA event, you can't be a USA member, because if you were a USA member, you couldn't be a WDA member and you then couldn't compete in WDA events.

Make sense or should I give a couple examples?