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by Chunklake on 30 March 2011 - 12:03
Greetings from Australia!
I have admired the German Shepherd Dog breed for many years, and I have never owned one. I am 23 years old, and have been researching German Shepherd Dogs for almost 3 years (when I was still in uni). I have finally decided to get a puppy, since I have a new house (big backyard), new well-paying job, and a lot of time on my hands.
My question to the experienced people on this forum is which parents can give me the biggest and darkest puppies. I know this is a pretty silly question, which has no definitive answer, but I thought I would give it a try.
The first mating is;
Sire: Vegas Von Dongmiran, son of Yerom Von Haus Salihin
(http://www.aimsway.com/site/Vegas.html)
Dam: (http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/profile.asp?dog=41879)
The second mating is;
Sire: Wegas Vom Fischtenschlag, son of Vegas Du Haut Mansard
(http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=607519)
Dam: Giona von Fischtenschlag
(http://www.zuckerpuppegsd.com/dog.asp?dog=54603)
Any helpful posts would be highly appreciated. I know this is a lot to ask for, but I am just trying to get a feel as to what puppies both these matings will produce
Regards;
Abel!
I have admired the German Shepherd Dog breed for many years, and I have never owned one. I am 23 years old, and have been researching German Shepherd Dogs for almost 3 years (when I was still in uni). I have finally decided to get a puppy, since I have a new house (big backyard), new well-paying job, and a lot of time on my hands.
My question to the experienced people on this forum is which parents can give me the biggest and darkest puppies. I know this is a pretty silly question, which has no definitive answer, but I thought I would give it a try.
The first mating is;
Sire: Vegas Von Dongmiran, son of Yerom Von Haus Salihin
(http://www.aimsway.com/site/Vegas.html)
Dam: (http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/profile.asp?dog=41879)
The second mating is;
Sire: Wegas Vom Fischtenschlag, son of Vegas Du Haut Mansard
(http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=607519)
Dam: Giona von Fischtenschlag
(http://www.zuckerpuppegsd.com/dog.asp?dog=54603)
Any helpful posts would be highly appreciated. I know this is a lot to ask for, but I am just trying to get a feel as to what puppies both these matings will produce
Regards;
Abel!
by Jenni78 on 30 March 2011 - 13:03
Hi Abel, welcome to the board.
You are not going to get many "good" answers (answers you consider good) because the last thing a first-time owner needs to be prioritizing is size and color.
You are not going to get many "good" answers (answers you consider good) because the last thing a first-time owner needs to be prioritizing is size and color.
by Emoore on 30 March 2011 - 13:03
Really? That's the big goal for your first GSD? Big and Dark? Can't wait to see what happens when you choose your spouse.
by liammulcrow on 30 March 2011 - 14:03
Hi
You are going about this the wrong way tbf, What you want is to choose a dog to suit your lifestyle and are you sure that dog is a GS, If so the last thing you want to be worrying about is size and colour,are you planning to use this dog for protection or some sort of sport or do you just want a pet. If you just want a pet then you need to be looking for temprement i.e is are the parents and pups socialized are they good with kids and strangers, also if it is just a pet you want in my opinion you are better of with show lines not working lines,as working lines will always want that extra stimulation ,its in their Genes, Working lines are good for a protection,tracking etc, not to say that a show line dog cannot do this but working lines have higher drives.
Please evaluate your situation before puchasing the last thing you want is to buy as GS and then think F*ck iv not the got the knowledge to teach this dog and then it ends up in the kennels, hope this helps.
You are going about this the wrong way tbf, What you want is to choose a dog to suit your lifestyle and are you sure that dog is a GS, If so the last thing you want to be worrying about is size and colour,are you planning to use this dog for protection or some sort of sport or do you just want a pet. If you just want a pet then you need to be looking for temprement i.e is are the parents and pups socialized are they good with kids and strangers, also if it is just a pet you want in my opinion you are better of with show lines not working lines,as working lines will always want that extra stimulation ,its in their Genes, Working lines are good for a protection,tracking etc, not to say that a show line dog cannot do this but working lines have higher drives.
Please evaluate your situation before puchasing the last thing you want is to buy as GS and then think F*ck iv not the got the knowledge to teach this dog and then it ends up in the kennels, hope this helps.
by MAR12558 on 30 March 2011 - 17:03
I picked mine because of her eyebrows, now a large unibrow. I couldn't be happier with the dog I ended up with.
by troublelinx on 30 March 2011 - 17:03
Yeah,
Thats just what the breed need to be bigger. They can go from a large breed to a giant breed.
Thats just what the breed need to be bigger. They can go from a large breed to a giant breed.
by Jeffmochte on 30 March 2011 - 17:03
Abel,
One thing about these sites is that they attract people who take the subjects very seriously. Usually, too seriously. And all first time owners are to be patronized also, btw. I just find it funny that so many "experienced" handler/owners and breeders value size and color, yet will chastise anyone who admits to being a "newbie" and who also values well, size and color. And to top it off, all they do is chastize and don't even go towards offering helpful answers or experience based recommendations. (first 2 posters, hmm, hmm)
As long as the dam and sire are decently sized and have good, rich colors, the pups will follow suit. And, I couldn't agree more with liammulcrow as to what you might want to be using as your guiding criteria; ie. your lifestyle or at least what you may be willing or able to change about it. Working lines demand your time, period. It's all about the puppy for the first year and a half or so, and then they mature and it's all about the dog. When I got mine at 8 weeks, I took a month off and since then (2 years) the vast majority of my free time is dedicated to him. And really, it's because I'm willing to do that, not because I necessarily want to give up all that time. So, if you have a job that is guaranteed more than 60 hours a week, 45-48 weeks a year and you're single (or married to someone not all that interested in your dog) I wouldn't recommend getting a working line dog. The dog will find that which interests it, in lieu of spending time with you, and destroy it. And that just leads to a situation of an unhappy owner and an unhappy dog. Hope this helps, and if this is something you already knew, well, cheers.
One thing about these sites is that they attract people who take the subjects very seriously. Usually, too seriously. And all first time owners are to be patronized also, btw. I just find it funny that so many "experienced" handler/owners and breeders value size and color, yet will chastise anyone who admits to being a "newbie" and who also values well, size and color. And to top it off, all they do is chastize and don't even go towards offering helpful answers or experience based recommendations. (first 2 posters, hmm, hmm)
As long as the dam and sire are decently sized and have good, rich colors, the pups will follow suit. And, I couldn't agree more with liammulcrow as to what you might want to be using as your guiding criteria; ie. your lifestyle or at least what you may be willing or able to change about it. Working lines demand your time, period. It's all about the puppy for the first year and a half or so, and then they mature and it's all about the dog. When I got mine at 8 weeks, I took a month off and since then (2 years) the vast majority of my free time is dedicated to him. And really, it's because I'm willing to do that, not because I necessarily want to give up all that time. So, if you have a job that is guaranteed more than 60 hours a week, 45-48 weeks a year and you're single (or married to someone not all that interested in your dog) I wouldn't recommend getting a working line dog. The dog will find that which interests it, in lieu of spending time with you, and destroy it. And that just leads to a situation of an unhappy owner and an unhappy dog. Hope this helps, and if this is something you already knew, well, cheers.
by Ruger1 on 30 March 2011 - 17:03
Jeffmochte...
Nice posts...: )
Chunklake...I'm with you...looks are super important to me too...: )
Breeding, health, temperament goes without saying...; )
Welcome....: )
Deanna...: )
by remione1 on 30 March 2011 - 18:03
Completly agree with Jeffmochte.
I waited & passed up really good pups because they didn't have the look I wanted. Health is a must but why not get what you want in looks also. It's your dog.
Good luck with your search
I waited & passed up really good pups because they didn't have the look I wanted. Health is a must but why not get what you want in looks also. It's your dog.
Good luck with your search
by Jenni78 on 30 March 2011 - 20:03
Actually, Jeff, I was being helpful. I was explaining WHY his post was sitting up there unanswered. I don't know a thing about black and reds, so I stayed out of recommendations.
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