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by GranvilleGSD on 07 March 2011 - 14:03
I have 1 GSD who is a screamer. I don't know any other way to describe it. I don't have a problem with some excitement whining, but this is out of hand and people are complaining about it. I have a remote collar and I tried it to see if it would stop the behavior, but there's no way I can be consistent enough to fairly train her that way. Nothing that I have tried with her has worked, and it's just getting worse, louder and more. Would a bark collar work in this situation? I know they work off vibration, I would think that the screaming would cause enough vibration to trigger the correction?
by brynjulf on 07 March 2011 - 15:03
We had a dal that screamed NON stop. If he was outside he screamed to be let out if inside he screamed to be let out. If he saw a dog he screamed ( like im going to kill it not i'm scared) If he saw me he screamed. etc. Horrid dog. Long story short in his case the bark collar made him a zillion percent worse. 14 of the longest years in my life! Screaming is passed on through the mother line. Her pups will have a chance at being screamers too!!! Before I purchase a pup i always ask if the mother does this. Breeders look at me weird but NEVER again. We never did figure out how to deal with this in the dal. I hope that the people on here can help you! I feel for you :(
by GranvilleGSD on 07 March 2011 - 15:03
Her mother is not a screamer. It's not fearful, or aggressive. It's any kind of excitement. Getting ready to do something. And doing things like making her wait only makes it 100 times worse. She's a great dog, and I'm glad that she's excited to work and do things, but the volume and intensity has to be taken down a few notches.
by Sunsilver on 07 March 2011 - 16:03
I would make her wait ....for EVERYTHING! Her food, to be let out of her crate or kennel, to be let in to her kennel or the house, etc., etc. A second or two of silence earns her the reward she wants then you can work on gradually increasing the length of time she has to be quiet. Be consistent, and I think you can lick it. I know there are people on here who hate Cesar, but I think th is is one time 'calm, submissive' has to be the goal to work towards.If she's high energy, I would give her vigorous exercise and get her really tired before working on the screaming.
Good luck...it would drive me batty having to listen to that. Normal barking is bad enough!
Good luck...it would drive me batty having to listen to that. Normal barking is bad enough!
by GranvilleGSD on 07 March 2011 - 18:03
She will wait sit and wait quietly for everything, that was the first thing I tried with her. She will wait with the crate door open, or the house door. She's not loud with eating. But as soon as she is released, no matter how calm everything else is, she will let out an explosive scream and then carry on sometimes with screaming other times with barking. The longer she has to wait, the worse the scenario is.
by Sunsilver on 07 March 2011 - 18:03
Jeez! 
What have you tried so far to discourage this? Does disciplining her for it help at all?
It sounds like you did get some positive results from the shock collar, so maybe the bark collar WOULD help.
What have you tried so far to discourage this? Does disciplining her for it help at all?
It sounds like you did get some positive results from the shock collar, so maybe the bark collar WOULD help.
by LadyFrost on 07 March 2011 - 18:03
wow..Granville.....hmm....my sisters neighbors have a dog like that...they had it for 3 years now....needless to say my sister is moving....i know they tried all kinds of stuff, animal control has been involved, trainer, shock collar...last i heard in the evenings dog is wearing a muzzle so at least in the evenings when people come home its quiet....but she said you can still hear t in the mornings when they let her out.....
by Kaffirdog on 07 March 2011 - 18:03
Since you can make her sit quiet, give her a toy as you release her, reward comes while she is quiet and it's hard to scream with your mouth full.
Margaret N-J
Margaret N-J
by GranvilleGSD on 07 March 2011 - 18:03
The only things that have made any difference is the shock collar and moving my butt faster and letting her get her way, which of course is the wrong thing to do. The very worst of her noise is first thing in the morning when I go to let her out to the bathroom. She will run ahead to the door whining and when I get to the door to open it she'll start screaming and will scream all the way out into the yard. I've tried making her wait away from the door so I get there first, that was the worst. Walking her out with a leash on, didn't make any difference. She knows quiet command, if people come over she barks I tell her to be quiet and she does, but in this scenario it means nothing.
by GranvilleGSD on 07 March 2011 - 18:03
Oh, that toy thing is a good idea, I will try that, she loves to carry toys around.
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