Training Session for Personal Protection

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by Am Virk on 05 March 2011 - 09:03

www.youtube.com/watch

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by duke1965 on 05 March 2011 - 11:03

am , with all respect , I dont think this dog looks good , look at his bodylanguage , ears and tail, when you pet him in the beginning and at the end ,he shows insecure , and also when the dustbin gets kicked he doesnot look good
I would step back a little with him and build courage for a while , lower threat , handler showing fear for the dog , and let him win win win

by Felloffher on 05 March 2011 - 16:03

Am,

If you're serious about training protection dogs find someone else to teach you. That video has fear biter written all over it.

by duke1965 on 05 March 2011 - 16:03

and there I was trying to put it nicely

by Felloffher on 05 March 2011 - 16:03

Duke,

I was being nice, Am isn't in the video. That training is a either being done by someone who doesn't understand or is taking short cuts to produce a finished product.

by SportySchGuy on 05 March 2011 - 16:03

I like the dog but they are going to screw the dog up if they keep on.

Fearbiter? Most people don't even know what a real fear biter looks like. This dog is definitely not one.

by duke1965 on 05 March 2011 - 17:03

sporty , if the dog had an open choice between fight or flight , right now , he wouldnot fight
his bodylanguage is pretty clear

by Felloffher on 05 March 2011 - 17:03

Maybe a difference of definitons.

That dog good or not is being put in a situation were it has no choice but bite and if given the option it looks like he would leave. At the begining of the video I would like to see a dog eager to engage the helper instead of looking like "oh shit here he comes". The dog shows aggression with lots of stimulation when the helper is close instead of forwardly trying to engage with aggression the whole time. Keep pushing like this and the dog will become nervy and a fear biter.

by SportySchGuy on 05 March 2011 - 17:03

Fear biters are genetic IMO not made. If it is made into that then it is not a true fear biter.

I agree that the people in the vid do not know what they are doing and sure if they keep going they will push the ddog into flight. This does not make the dog a bad dog. Someone that knew what they were doing could make this dog into something just going off what I see on the vid. My point is the dog is going to be screwed up not totally ruined and a fear biter he is not nor will he be.

by Felloffher on 05 March 2011 - 17:03

SSG,

What term would you use to describe a dogs responce to this kind of "push them till they aggress" training?

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