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by piercea785 on 17 February 2011 - 16:02
I am not planning on breeding or anything, I am just curious. If you breed your male, do you have any rights to make decisions with the litter? For example can you say that you only want the pups to have limited registration until they have a title, etc, or is that usually up to the owner of the bitch? Is this usually just a case by case basis? Thanks!!
by eichenluft on 17 February 2011 - 16:02
no rights unless you are the owner of the litter, which is normally the owner of the female/the breeder who chooses to use your stud dog.
by vom ost see on 17 February 2011 - 18:02
i think the stud owner can stipulate any terms he may desire as long as there is "written aggrement" between parties...keyword beining "AGGREMENT"! usually the owner of the dam pays a stud fee,with proof of satisfactory medical,and the deal is done as far as the stud's owner is concerned,and no other conditions apply.he can turn down a bitch for personal reasons(maybe it's not a good match,ect,ect)...it's a free country,and any written aggrement may be binding to both parties.some people want to "elevate their status" by breeding a marginal bitch to a top stud,and this could cause the stud owner to make additional demands as far as the litter goes(reputations are at stake).but in general....the stud fee should allow for a minimum number of days that an outside bitch is at the stud owners facility,before a "kennel fee" kicks in (in case she's not ready),after all, the bitch has to be fed and cared for...liability and time comsumming.
by Jeff Oehlsen on 18 February 2011 - 02:02
The words control freak come to mind. Why in the world would anyone ever ever even think something as stupid as this ?
by carebear on 18 February 2011 - 04:02
Quite common in Oz for this to happen - i wanted to mate my Imported Dobermann female to a male and the owner said ok for a very high stud fee (ok) but I could only register 2 puppies and the rest sold without registration. Needless to say the mating did not happen. I know with other breeds (owners) who lay down these type of conditions.
by Jeff Oehlsen on 18 February 2011 - 05:02
That is crazy. Just crazy. Carebear I would feel extremely insulted.
by carebear on 18 February 2011 - 08:02
I agree Jeff, we had Dobermanns at that time and I had two super German imports i wanted to mate to this particular dog. Of course I did not. To me the mettle of a stud dog is what he produces and surely you would want the dog to be used rather than be a macho man parading the dog around saying it can but never having the goods on the table?? What benefit to the breed is that?? I know of a couple of working line GSD stud dog owners who have similar conditions. When questioned their response is "my dog my rules" It's mad.
by Bob McKown on 18 February 2011 - 12:02
I would not call it mad I call it a business deal, if you want the product that bad you make the deal. There is a ass for every seat. I probably would not make that deal with a stud owner but it depends on how bad I want to breed to him.
It,s just like people that complain about buying a dog with limited registration until OFA,d and titled. You knew the agreement before you bought so don,t whine about it just don,t buy it.
by carebear on 18 February 2011 - 13:02
I see your point to a certain extent and I guess it is up to the individual to make their own choices. There are always other options.
by ggturner on 18 February 2011 - 17:02
Stud owner should only be able to agree or diagree to letting their dog be used as stud and then if letting him stud, decide if they want a stud fee or pick of the litter.
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