wonder if Cesar Milan has ever.... - Page 1

had the joy of trying to get a strong drive working line GSD into a "Quiet Submissive State?"  (and if his wife brought him sandwiches and a portajohn while he was waiting... LMAO.   I've decided to settle for a Sit and Quiet as my "Quiet Submissive State"  I'm 60 and can't wait that long for full submission...

Lol Windwalker i have thought that many times ,

Heck Windwalker, I'm 67 and have 2 explosive and 2 drug detection K-9's....calm submissive is when I finally get to sleep!

Pretty funny!

Kansas K-9

I've laughed at this very thought too.

SSSHH!! HaHa

I have just finished watching Cesar's episode on The Most Aggressive Dog Breeds, and have come away with a brand new respect for him. In that episode he twice had to break up a fight between some pit bulls with his bare hands. The one fight just involved Daddy and the pit he was trying to rehabilitate. The other was a multi-dog fight involving the above pit and several of Cesar's pack members.

Cesar says he started his career 25 years ago working with rotties, so he knows all about how to handle large, dangerous high-drive dogs. He says the German Shepherd has become a problem breed because it is big, intelligent and high-energy, and people do not know how to take leadership with such a dog.

But what impressed me the most was the very end of the episode, where he revealed what  his own choice was as the most dangerous breed. His viewers fingered rottweilers, German shepherds and pit bulls as the 3 most aggressive breeds, with pits being the most aggressive.

Cesar's answer was 'none of the above'. It's all in how the OWNER handles the dog. It's the OWNER that creates the problem.

And, folks, we ALL KNOW THAT'S RIGHT!!

I agree with you Sun...  I'm a Cesar supporter (as opposed to fan) and Taught Obedience classes to Juvenal delinquent teen dogs (10-24 months usually) whose lack of training from the owner was resulting in problems in the family, or with neighbors etc... often to the point that the dogs were about to head for a shelter or euthanasia.  I find that with my Cyclone darling using calmness is much more effective with him than harsher corrections. But He is still far from what Cesar would consider calm and submissive.... LOL.  

My only concern with his show is novices trying to use the methods without really "getting it", and without his ability to read dogs and what their next reaction will be. 

Cesars ways are nothing new to me, common sence half the time, i too watch the shows and even paid to see him ,I watch any training programs. I have used the same methods as CM for 30 odd yrs with good result with my customers aggressive uncontrolable dogs, i never had problems with them and have never had to resort to an E-collar covered by a bandanna, (these have their place as a training device), but trying to ever put my male in to  as" WW states  a Cesar  clam submissive state" , just don't  ever happen. I have great respect for the Guy and good luck to him he hit a market that needed to be delt with "Stupid owners with dogs that have no bounderies and no respect for the owners" left to do as they please..
Sometimes wish i had been spotted instead of Milan, but there are many a good handler trainer that has had many good results from all over the world using common sence, and being able to read the dogs body language.  CM Calm submissive  state and my  male don't happen.