buying puppy- pedigree help!! PLZ - Page 1

Hi,
I hoping to get help from people here that have knowledge on regards to lines. I have a friend that knows a lot more about lines that I do and he is buying one of the puppies from the litter and I am buying the other one (only 3 pups from the litter- 2 males 1 female).. he tells me the pedigree of both sire and dam are nice... just wanted to see what you guys have to say.. thanks for your help

Sire:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/471579.html

Dam:

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/582833.html

I see the litter is 3-3 on SG Manto vom Kahlenbach 1990 SZ 1780448 HD-normal

pedigree is interesting! Good luck!

not much is show about the hip health of the dam's side of the pedigree.

what is the temperament of the parents?

they look well bred.   who are u buying the pups from?

Thanks for the answers... I dont know much about pedigrees so if you have a bit more info it would  be appreciated.

To judron55:

"I see the litter is 3-3 on SG Manto vom Kahlenbach 1990 SZ 1780448 HD-normal

pedigree is interesting!"

What does 3-3 means? also wondering why you think it makes it interesting, due to the 3-3?

To SitasMom:

The Dam has good HD but I cant recall what were the scores. On regards to Temperament on the research I could do on the Sire, he has produced great dogs in Europe. He is clear headed and has great bite. He was imported here to Australia from Belgum.  On regards to the Dam she is also a clear headed bitch with good drive. The breeder got her when she was older from some else and she thinks the bitch was not given the best upbringing, therefore her full potential was not develop(the bitch was in a yard with another very domiant bitch that would bully her) but still performs well.

To Turk:

The breeder has come from Australia from South Africa, she is a very nice lady. Haveloc kennels.

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I am guessing no many people know about pedigrees or are just not willing to write    .....

Hi,

I know quite alot about the mother line of the puppy. My husband did also alot of training with the grandmother Yoschy. She was an amazing tough drivey female. She was quite healthy but did develop some problems later on.

I knew Gorby as well. Nice dog but not really my type personally. In general I am not really a Lord fan.
Because my husband liked Yoschy so much he took a female from the A litter. She did not turn out. The drive was silly drive and we struggled to get her to focus for any length of time. We gave her back.
There was two very nice males in this litter though and the one competed at nationals here many times.

The litter was also repeated in the C litter and from that I know of a very nice female.

In my experience I have come across a lot of the Manto dogs that seem to develop back problems. I am not to sure a 3 x 3 on him is rally the best breeding. Especially since the grandmother also developed problems on the L1-4 vertibrae.

I do really like the sire though, super dog!

Lestat Thank you very much for your input.... I am interested to learn more about pedigrees and even more of the pup that I am getting.

I know a lot of people talk about Zasko producing great pups, I just didnt know anything from the mothers side.

so apart from from the back issues, how do you see the two pedigrees coming together?

Regards

AS I said, personally I would not do a 3 - 3 on Manto, but if your pup goes more toward the yoschy side of this you will have a good puppy. She was quite a tough cookie though and did not always listen to her handler, especially in protection. So make sure in training right from the beginning you make things black and white. No grey areas or else you could end up with the same problems. I have some pics of her somewhere I will fish them out for you!