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by Ibrahim on 10 October 2010 - 20:10

I understand that a pistol shot is used to test GSD character. I have few questions:
1. Do you train your GSD to hear the shot several times on several occasions to get used to it so he or she is used to it and accept the sound without freaking?
2. Is it a bad thing if a 1 year old first time hears a hunting gun shot without prior notice gets scared?
3. If after 10 times on 10 different days he undergoes this experience and reaches a state where he does not bother the sound, is he okay now? What does this tell you about the dog? is he coward but got over his cowardness?
Any comment or explanation of pistol shot testing of dogs is welcome.
Ibrahim

by Jeff Oehlsen on 10 October 2010 - 20:10

With what I look for is recovery. It is not a bad thing if the dog startles, if he has never heard a shot. It is how quickly he recovers, and if it continues to bother him. Just because a dog does not react, does not mean that is the correct answer either.

I do not mind if a dog reacts to something they have NEVER seen. It is HOW they react, and how long it affects them that I look at.

by Ibrahim on 10 October 2010 - 20:10

Got it

Thanks
Ibrahim

by steve1 on 12 October 2010 - 07:10

Ibrahim
Normally when training at the club we get that, We start off walking up the field on leash to start with and when you get say a third way up someone will fire the Gun twice normally within 10 seconds of each shot, that is part of the First test BH, and it goes on through each time to ScH3 when your dog is walking off leash the Gun is fired then, only twice never more
Steve1

by Ibrahim on 12 October 2010 - 08:10

Thank you Steve I appreciate your reply, and good morning to you.

Ibrahim

by Bob McKown on 12 October 2010 - 20:10

Ibrahim:

You don,t want to see a negative reaction to the shot Jeff is right it,s how the dog recovers that is important. I shoot steel drop plates in my back yard a rack of 15 with a 45 the dogs are exposed to gun shots very young and in all sorts of different situations by the time there on the field there oblivious of them.

What I don,t like is going to a trial and the gun shots are like barley audible. By the time you come out on the field to compete you should know if your dog is going to react on a gun shot.

by Prager on 12 October 2010 - 20:10

Startle and recover is good. Start easy. First crack the whip when you feed. Start with pups. Then shoot small caliber from long distance and then closer and closer, bigger and bigger gun. After the shot you can feed or play like nothing happened. Sky is blue grass is green there someone shot the gun. No big deal attitude. Be careful not to associate the gun with protection/aggression. Think what you want to achieve.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

by Ibrahim on 12 October 2010 - 20:10

Prager,

You are marvellous

Bob,

Thank you for the continuous help

by michael49 on 12 October 2010 - 21:10

I see a true test for gunfire as exposing the dog or puppy to a sound that it has never heard and observing how the puppy or dog reacts and recovers. I want the dog or puppy to react and recover quickly and show some interest in the direction of the gunshot. What I don't want to see is a dog or puppy that heads for it's safe place, such as a dog house or other place of hiding and has to be coaxed to reappear. To my way of thinking to expose the dog or puppy to gunshots on repeated occasions to get the desired reaction is conditioning not testing.

by ronin on 12 October 2010 - 21:10

Remember, it's only a gun to you, dogs have no concept of guns or bullets, no idea what a knife is, or any of their capabilities.

For us it's a way of delivering a loud and sudden noise, no more no less for the purpose of training dogs. I've been shooting guns for many years, and I still jump sometimes when the guns go off, it's a natural and normal reaction. We just need to place it in context as advised above.

regards

Mark

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