People never cease to amaze me - Page 1

These people posted again.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/classifieds/106717.html

Really?

From a mod: What is the problem?

The dog is fine.
Prager Hans www.alpinek9.com

Hey Jaggirl:  Do you mean this ad?:
 http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/classifieds/106717.html

from this kennel?
http://www.vonkasekuchen.com/index.html

This might not be the kennel or bitch I would be looking to buy a puppy from, but I don't see anything really untoward in the kennel or the ad.  In the old days I would have BUT I am older now and learning to live and let live!

Let's see if this goes through this time......

Edited by moderator: Jaggirl your post was accidently deleted. I also see nothing wrong. It is not a fraud. IMO
Thanks for the heads up. We will let this thread stand for now.

Sorry, my last post was deleted or something.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum/57697.html?pagen=1#58349

This is the original thread. It is a 15 year old girl. Her pup is 11 weeks old and not the one pictured. Her last litter, the sire was 16 months, the bitch was 14 months. The bitch ran away, she replaced it with a new pup. I contacted her to try to find out what she is trying to accomplish. She said she will be doing Schutzhund and will title the pup next year. She is also planning on breeding the pup next year at a year old.

I asked on the last thread if someone could contact her and give her some advice. I am far from a breeder, but even when I contacted her, she didn't care to listen.

Edited by moderator: Sorry we are learning the system. If it was fraud or wrong pictures we would take action.

Good point Sue, but the bitch they are planning to breed is only 4 months old and the breeding is planned for next year. Even in December of 2011 she will only be only 17 months old, so it would be impossible to have OFA'd hips and elbows, except for pre-lims! The other bitch they plan to breed next year is 2 months old right now, so by the end of next year she only be a little over a year, so again it would be impossible to have her OFA'd. THat's just for starters. It seems they have a nicely designed website, but the content is very amateurish. This is your typical BYB, trying to look professional, but they have a lot to learn.

Mod, what happened to the last paragraph in my post? I know this is new here so was it accidental?

Moderator edit: yes.

OK, thanks mod....

The reason I worry over this stuff is that I have an almost 10 y/o GSD with several genetic issues. I have no problem with people wanting to breed. I have a problem with people who do not know what they are doing and are not seemingly open to learning. I greatly dislike it when people just throw dogs together to make money. You end up with a dog like I have. An expensive hot mess that took years and alot of money to diagnose and treat.

Oh now I see what you are saying, and you are right, and it's a BIG red flag!

Since they say the dog was 4 months old at the time of the photo,  and the photo is date stamped 9/2/10, that means she was born 5/2/10.  The earliest they could even submit the xrays would be MAY 2, 2012.  So the very earliest she could be certified and bred would be LATE 2012, no way in 2011 !!!

Unless of course they are talking about prelims. The ad says:  " SHE WILL BE OFA'D / HIPS AND ELBOWS BEFORE BREEDING.".  Some breeders will tell first time puppy buyers the parents have been screened by OFA,  meaning  the dog had prelims done, or that  they sent the xrays to OFA  (maybe they don't mention the dog did not receive a passing grade).   The only other explanation is they could mean SV "a" stamp program, but even still, what with submitting xrays overseas, waiting for results, waiting for her to come into season, I think it's highly doubtful she would receive an "a" stamp in time to be bred in 2011.

So to me, this ad is very misleading, intentional or not.

I think there were threads directed at this ad or one very similar to this one....its not the first ad this particular breeder has posted......No matter what other people think, they probably will not stop doing what they think is correct.....As the mod stated, it is not a fraudulent ad, so that breeder has the right to place an ad here just as everyone else does....JMO