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by Royal1 on 10 July 2010 - 07:07

Hi!

If you breed hyper female (Extreme drive) ---> with a very calm male (medium drive) that is very stable; will the genes "genetics" be split between sire and dam; and the offspring will 50/50 between too much energy "Extreme" and very calm medium drive.

Thanks.

by Jeff Oehlsen on 10 July 2010 - 08:07

 No. Higher thresholds will win out. (calm) You should get a few that have some drive. Not something I would recommend.

by Royal1 on 10 July 2010 - 17:07

"Higher thresholds will win out"

What do you mean?


by Jeff Oehlsen on 10 July 2010 - 17:07

 Maybe you should figure out some terms before you do this breeding thing. LOL

You will get more doorknobs. Dull dogs, "low" drive dogs.


by Jeff Oehlsen on 10 July 2010 - 17:07

 Maybe you should figure out some terms before you do this breeding thing. LOL

You will get more doorknobs. Dull dogs, "low" drive dogs.


by eichenluft on 10 July 2010 - 18:07

IMO "hyper" does not = high or extreme drive.  Two different things. 

by Jeff Oehlsen on 10 July 2010 - 18:07

 Speaking of doorknob creators.

by Royal1 on 11 July 2010 - 02:07

Speaking hypothetically; when you breed extreme high drive GSD with medium drive GSD you should get few pups with extreme drive, few pups medium drive and few pups in between medium and extreme drive. That is how I think, if someone know more then proof me wrong. I don't need comments with jokes!!!!!!


Sorry what I mean by hyper is very energetic dog.

Sorry hyper has a different meaning, my mistake.


troublelinx

by troublelinx on 11 July 2010 - 03:07

There are situations where high thresholds are good, low is bad and vice versa.

For example a high threshold for avoidance would be good (takes lots of pressure for dog to go into avoidance).  Some dogs are brought into certain drives faster or with less effort.  Drives like prey or defense.  If they are brought into these drives without much provocation that is a low threshold.  Now this may be good or it may be bad.  Some people like a for real dog a dog with lots of prey but will work in civil when necessary.  Like when a person tries to rob your wife.  You want the dog to bite for real but with the confidence to stay in the fight. You would prefer for the dog to have a high threshold for avoidance, thus he stays in the fight.  Some dogs with low thresholds for going into defense do so out of fear.  These dogs will have low avoidance threshold, low avoidance threshold.

ziegenfarm

by ziegenfarm on 11 July 2010 - 03:07

just a piece of free advice............
if you know what you want in a dog, go out and find it and buy it.  much more predictable and better results. 
i have a couple of "hyper" females.  i tried breeding one of them and will never do it again with that kind of dog.  she is now spayed and i'm thinking of doing the same with the other.  they make lousy mothers - not worth putting yourself or the pups through that.  i'm getting cynical in my old age and have found that i really hate high prey drive in dogs.  give me a dog with just sufficient drive but hard as nails any day of the week.
pjp





 


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