Question? How many GSD's that become 2X VA1 - Page 1

Question? How many GSD's become 2X VA1 -or- it is really rare!

Is their any GSD's that recently received such high rank title or only
Yasko vom Farbenspiel is the latest dog.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/36836.html

Is their any dogs this year 2010 became 2X VA1 ????????????

Royal,
when you click on "Historical VA List" here on the left under Collections, you will get your answer.
Yes, there have been others like Larus Batu, Uran WS, Quando Arminius, Natan Pelztierfarm, Fanto Hirschel etc. who have been awarded VA-1 twice.
There has not been any Sieger Show in 2010 yet. The Sieger Show always take place around late August to early September. This year, it will be from September 03-05, 2010.

 That link only shows up to 2007, don't forget Vegas VA1 2008 and 2009.

Royal1,
 
     There have been several 2X VA1's over the past couple decades:


     Uran vom Wildsteiger Land (1984/5)
     Quando von Arminius(1986/7)
     Fanto vom Hirschel(1990/91)
     Rikkor von Bad Boll(1998/9)
     Yasko vom Farbenspiel(2001/2)
     Larus von Batu(2004/5)
     Vegas du Haut Mansard(2008/9)

Cheers!

Thanks!

The only dogs that acutall says 2X on the list was!

www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/624307.html
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/55.html
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/6164.html
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/36836.html
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/119824.html
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/441845.html


This dog look skinny 2X VA1
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/73.html


I' am new at this, so please be patient with me :)
Question? how come this dogs on the list start at lower rank and slowly going up to VA1 place!
Is it only show line GSD become VA1, how about working line GSD ??

According to this PDB, see Eiko vom Kirschental, Timo vom Berrekasten for
more than 2X VA
Michele

Royal1,

   There are alot of reasons that some dogs will start out at a "lower rank" and move up to the VA1 position.....and rightly so.
Progeny groups play a major role in which dogs move up( at least in theory) and this is as it should be. Performance on the day "that it counts";  at the Sieger Show, bitework, "who owns the dog", etc....judges are also influenced by their own preferred type.

   Since the time of the "split" in the breed between working and show lines, there have not been many dogs from working lines presented at the BSZS.....some,but not many. The goals are much different for the workingline folks; there focus is on the work primarily,often with aspirations to compete at high levels in that venue( LGA,WUSV,FCI,BSP).

  In recent years,some of the better known kennels have tried to bring the two lines together,frequently with promising results.

dshlerner, and other people who respond :)

Thanks for your time!

What I had learned that 2X VA dogs been used the most oftern in breeding program, like Yasko vom Farbenspiel, I see his name almost everytime on most pedigree's.

I counted 18.