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Dash2009

by Dash2009 on 20 May 2010 - 04:05

We purchased a male German Shepherd puppy from Benita DuRette in Dec 2009. He's been a great dog, however he was just diagnosed by the local vet with Panosteitis in the front right leg. When I brought this to the attention of Benita she went off about the vet (Ark animal clinic, Philomath) not knowing what they're talking about. We have x-rays and all to back it up. Has anyone had problems with their dogs from her?

by Willy on 20 May 2010 - 04:05

Hello Dash,

Benita Durrett is a puppy mill. Just ask the Vets in Lincoln City or Newport. She advertises only in Oregonian and small papers. She has family members buy dogs for her, cause many people around here know she a huge puppy mill. She keep her dogs in a Bus on her property and her puppies are in horriable conditions. Dr. Emmerson from Lincoln City Animal clinic can tell you all about her and what she produces as can all the staff there. She been breeding for 20 years and still gets away with it. Most of the time she does not allow people to her property now. I'm sorry you have one of her pups. Many of her dogs have skin issues, weight problems and heart worm.

Willy



by VomMarischal on 20 May 2010 - 04:05

Pano is not a big problem and most large-boned puppies get it if fed too hot a food. It goes away. Feed your dog a slow-growth food and he'll probably be 100% in no time. Sounds to me like the vet DOESN'T know what he's talking about.

Rugers Guru

by Rugers Guru on 20 May 2010 - 05:05

I agree with VM.... Pano is not a perminant crippling desease. It starts in one leg, then moves to the next, and so on. It may last years, months, or days. the only thing you can do is rest your dog until they feel better.... Please do not medicate your dog for this.... There is no need to.  Whoever the breeder is, they did nothing to breed pano into your dog. Most vets refer to this as "growing pains" There is nothing to prove it is genetic, or even environmental.


by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 20 May 2010 - 09:05

pano is not a big deal. it wil go away. nostrenuous exercise or walks for your dog for a few days and it will blow over.

it may come back again on a different leg. what other posters said above about pano is correct and i agree.

TIG

by TIG on 20 May 2010 - 10:05

Well, I somewhat disagree. There is a genetic component to pano. Ignore it and you will find it becomes more frequent in your lines and lasts for longer and longer periods. I've seen American sl dogs that had serious pano for several years and as a result of confinement to rest combined with pain were never just right.

Not saying that will happen with this dog. Hopefully they will find out about diet and support him with good supplements and a bit of rest will find him on his way.

Any genetic issue should be marked and noted - that is not to say wipe every dog who has had pano out of the gene pool. We can't do that - it's too common and  if a mild case not that serious but like anything we need to pay attention.. It is information which allows us to progress.

by VomMarischal on 20 May 2010 - 18:05

Rugers, Connal's great uncle, who is oversized, got it. Not a horrible case, and it was gone in about 3 months (well before he was a year old). If Connal turns out as big as Ace, who is 105 lbs., he just may get it. Ace is the only dog I've ever produced that got it, but Ace is freakishly big...HUGE wasn't in the bloodline, either. Go figure. Anyway, just saying that it's a possibility.  

by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 20 May 2010 - 18:05

There is absolutely no conclusive evidence that Pano is genetic or it belongs to certain lines. In fact, not a whole lot of knowledge about pano to begin with, nor has it been researched through and through.

I do not know anything about Am show lines, in fact, I don't even consider them GSDs at all, to me they do not exists.

I did not say ignore it, I should have worded it more specifically - monitor it, no running. If something has to be given it should not be Rimadyl as I am 99% sure the vet wanted to give. That thing is pure poison and should not be given to any dog for any reason. If the dog is seriously limping, whinning and not moving and soemthing has to be given, it could be Deramaxx (and that also ONLY 1/2 a dose of what a vet says to give, most vets don't know shit) or good ole fashioned Maalox (better knows as aspirin).

In 99% of the cases, INCLUDING MINE, the situation with Pano happens when the dog is young before 2 years of age (although it could happen at a later stage, but it's almost always on 6 to 18 months old dogs), enjoys running around, the owner gives a high protein food, and gives more than the dog's body needs and the dog shoots up and grows like weeds.

The best thign about Pano is it "resolves itself" after a while, as I sincerely hope it will happen with thing dog shortly too. Might come back on another leg in a few months, it might not, the thing about Pano is it's unpredictable, but what is predictable is it will go away, with some TLC and the dog will bounce back fine.

Dash2009

by Dash2009 on 20 May 2010 - 19:05

Thank you for all the input. I have heard that this breader is questionable but that's after the fact now. Dash is pushing 70lbs at 8 months. He's tall and lanky but otherwise very healthy. He's had all his shots and check-ups. Great addition to the family. We only feed him home cooked meals like beef, pork and chicken w.veggies and rice. Maybe that's why he's grown so fast. The breeder told us to just give him rest and more cottage cheese (fix all). Not sure about the Rimadyl thing. Yes the vet gave us 10 days worth. The vet said NEVER give a dog asprin or ibuprofin. So what's the truth here. This is a reputable vet that's been around a while.

by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 20 May 2010 - 19:05

Of course, vet gave you Rimadyl, that is their cottage cheese fix all fix.

Switch him to high quality kibble and give only recommended amounts. I did not say Ibuprofen, I said Maalox, which is a powdery aspirin, no gell caplets, tablets or anything like that.

If in doubt, and I see you are, not give him that.

Do not feed him "home cooked meals", he is a dog. If you want to feed him meat, feed it to him raw, if you want.

Cottage cheese is fine, in moderation, you can either use cottage cheese, or plain yoghurt (not flavored yoghurt), sprinkle some on his kibble.

Remember, pano will go away in a while, with some mother hen moves from you, making sure the dog is not running, etc, cut the walks off, until the dog "seems normal" and even then, only walks, no running. Monitor the dog. He will "tell you" when it's over.







 


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