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by ShelleyR on 16 May 2010 - 20:05
URGENT!
I need the names and contact info for every shelter, SPACA, rescue group, etc. within 300 miles of Carlisle, PA. Seems someone is planning to dump a female GSD and her puppies next week!
Please don't ask the name of the dumpER. I expect the dumping would be done annonymously, typical of any coward.
Shelley Roecker Strohl
wkgdogs@gmail.com
610-392-7197
I need the names and contact info for every shelter, SPACA, rescue group, etc. within 300 miles of Carlisle, PA. Seems someone is planning to dump a female GSD and her puppies next week!
Please don't ask the name of the dumpER. I expect the dumping would be done annonymously, typical of any coward.
Shelley Roecker Strohl
wkgdogs@gmail.com
610-392-7197
by shostring on 16 May 2010 - 21:05
Shelley this is terrible poor girl and her babys I do hope that you can get her and find her and her babys a good loving home its a pity I live in an other country as I would for sure take this poor girl and her babys good luck and thanks for careing
Rosey
Rosey
by ShelleyR on 16 May 2010 - 21:05
Mom and babies are purebred, from top working lines. All are sable.
by TessJ10 on 16 May 2010 - 22:05
If the shelter gets them first, they won't let you have the papers, and of course they'll all have to be spayed/neutered. Can't you just have someone get them from the current owner?
by ShelleyR on 16 May 2010 - 23:05
If the person in possession of the dogs can't register them and sell them, which they cannot, they are disposable to that person.
by kitkat3478 on 17 May 2010 - 16:05
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by DebiSue on 17 May 2010 - 02:05
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Oh yes, we most definitely know exactly who she is and despite all her breast beating and gnashing of teeth about how she has been wronged she has now stooped to a level so low I consider her beneath the murderer of Buddy and the bitch who starved Courage. That should give you all an idea of how low she is willing to go to "get even". To take a lactating mamma dog and her pups to a high kill shelter and dump them if the "ransom" isn't paid is despicable. Never mind what she or anyone else may think of Shelley. Who here would even consider such an act just out of spite because you didn't get your way. I might get pissed at someone but I would never, ever do something like this out of spite. I can be a real bitch, don't get me wrong, but this is utterly offensive and goes against everything we hold dear about our beloved breed. I think she has gone mad.
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by ShelleyStrohl on 17 May 2010 - 03:05
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So much for the charitible humanitarian and highly ethical champion of the breed.
Its all about MONEY. In this case, a LOT of money.
I call $15,000. pretty steep rent for 5 mos. labor notwithstanding.
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by hexe on 17 May 2010 - 03:05 hexe
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...and the manure pile gets turned over yet AGAIN. The Neverending Story.
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by Two Moons on 17 May 2010 - 03:05
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I don't care how it ends as long as the dog doesn't pay the price.
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by hexe on 17 May 2010 - 03:05 hexe
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Moons, I agree with you on that.
It sounds like signing off on the registration documents would likely ensure the dam and pups were placed in appropriate homes, yet that doesn't appear to be happening.
And while the dam and the pups might certainly seem to 'disappear' if registrations aren't obtainable, it's highly unlikely they'll be 'dumped' at any shelter--after all, the breeding still appears on the accused's website, so it's not as if their birth was any great secret.
Just more sabre-rattling and manure-forking, IMO. The need to solicit attention runs frighteningly deep.
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by Two Moons on 17 May 2010 - 04:05
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At this point I do not know what to say,
I know what I know, but it's not my place to open that can of worms.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't really gonna happen, it would be a grave mistake.
Things have gone too far in my opinion.
No ones gonna win this, but a reasonable compromise could be reached I'm fairly certain of that.
If only things could cool down.
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by ShelleyStrohl on 17 May 2010 - 04:05
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Disposing of dogs that aren't yours to dispose of is a very bad idea, wrong on SO many levels, not to mention against the law.
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by afwark15 on 17 May 2010 - 05:05
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by DebiSue on 17 May 2010 - 02:05
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Oh yes, we most definitely know exactly who she is and despite all her breast beating and gnashing of teeth about how she has been wronged she has now stooped to a level so low I consider her beneath the murderer of Buddy and the bitch who starved Courage. That should give you all an idea of how low she is willing to go to "get even". To take a lactating mamma dog and her pups to a high kill shelter and dump them if the "ransom" isn't paid is despicable. Never mind what she or anyone else may think of Shelley. Who here would even consider such an act just out of spite because you didn't get your way. I might get pissed at someone but I would never, ever do something like this out of spite. I can be a real bitch, don't get me wrong, but this is utterly offensive and goes against everything we hold dear about our beloved breed. I think she has gone mad.
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by ShelleyStrohl on 17 May 2010 - 03:05
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So much for the charitible humanitarian and highly ethical champion of the breed.
Its all about MONEY. In this case, a LOT of money.
I call $15,000. pretty steep rent for 5 mos. labor notwithstanding.
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by hexe on 17 May 2010 - 03:05 hexe
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...and the manure pile gets turned over yet AGAIN. The Neverending Story.
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by Two Moons on 17 May 2010 - 03:05
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I don't care how it ends as long as the dog doesn't pay the price.
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by hexe on 17 May 2010 - 03:05 hexe
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Moons, I agree with you on that.
It sounds like signing off on the registration documents would likely ensure the dam and pups were placed in appropriate homes, yet that doesn't appear to be happening.
And while the dam and the pups might certainly seem to 'disappear' if registrations aren't obtainable, it's highly unlikely they'll be 'dumped' at any shelter--after all, the breeding still appears on the accused's website, so it's not as if their birth was any great secret.
Just more sabre-rattling and manure-forking, IMO. The need to solicit attention runs frighteningly deep.
URGENT!
by Two Moons on 17 May 2010 - 04:05
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At this point I do not know what to say,
I know what I know, but it's not my place to open that can of worms.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't really gonna happen, it would be a grave mistake.
Things have gone too far in my opinion.
No ones gonna win this, but a reasonable compromise could be reached I'm fairly certain of that.
If only things could cool down.
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by ShelleyStrohl on 17 May 2010 - 04:05
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Disposing of dogs that aren't yours to dispose of is a very bad idea, wrong on SO many levels, not to mention against the law.
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by afwark15 on 17 May 2010 - 05:05
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by kitkat3478 on 17 May 2010 - 16:05
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by ShelleyStrohl on 17 May 2010 - 05:05
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Its against board rules to post e-mails here, or, believe me, I would.
It is NOT, however, against any law to share personal correspondence with one's friends (attorneys, law enforcement, members of favorite organizations) privately., especially when that correspondence contains blatant threats of harm to one's possessions. How real those threats are, remains to be seen, but I am treating them seriously, as written.
I thought I knew my "friend" too. Unfortunately my knowledge was wrong, and its costing me dearly.
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by ShelleyStrohl on 17 May 2010 - 05:05
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BTW- I have not named any accused, so speculatation is just that.
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by BlackthornGSD on 17 May 2010 - 05:05
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$15,000? Interesting figure, nearly 5x inflated, I hear.
I've no doubt that the mother and puppies will end up somewhere safe. It's too bad that someone who tried to do you a good turn when you were in need is repaid thusly for such efforts.
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by afwark15 on 17 May 2010 - 05:05
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oh please, anyone with a brain knows who you are talking about- and how could they not...you bring it up constantly.
I just think this thread was a little over the top and dramatic- that is all.
Amanda
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by bazza on 17 May 2010 - 06:05 bazza
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Absolutely shocked!!!
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by poseidon on 17 May 2010 - 11:05
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Harsh words can be expressed in anger but I doubt "the dump to the kill shelter" will ever happen.
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by kitkat3478 on 17 May 2010 - 13:05
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Of course EVERYONE knows it's PUPPY PIMP Molly. And of course everyone knows I'll say what others won't!!!!
Let me say this, Molly claims to be "one of the good guys", breeds ONLY for the betterment of the breed,(but despite bitching everyone else out for breeding untitled dogs, does so herself,$$$$$$$KA-CHING...KA-CHING...)Wouldn't DREAM of breeding long coats, But don't mind producing them, (ka-ching0, dog rescue..oh, that's right...got to be one I can SELL, (ka-ching), oh, mama dog in pound with litter that looks purebred...I'll get them,(ka-ching), older female within miles of Molly, (NO...No,no Ka-ching), No rescue!
Anything and Everything Molly does for dogs, people, horses, what-ever is done so with the Thoughts OF LINING HER POCKETS...PLAIN AND SIMPLE...
(and why is this my business??It's NOT!!!!!!!!) just thought I'd throw my 4 cents in....
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by Bob McKown on 17 May 2010 - 13:05
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I,ve seen the emails from Molly to Shelly and YES dumping them at a SPCA is exactly what is threatened. I could really care less if the two ladies were locked in a room with a gun and did away with each other but to threaten a litter in such a way is well below the standard of a Breed Warden for a Ge
by ShelleyStrohl on 17 May 2010 - 05:05
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Its against board rules to post e-mails here, or, believe me, I would.
It is NOT, however, against any law to share personal correspondence with one's friends (attorneys, law enforcement, members of favorite organizations) privately., especially when that correspondence contains blatant threats of harm to one's possessions. How real those threats are, remains to be seen, but I am treating them seriously, as written.
I thought I knew my "friend" too. Unfortunately my knowledge was wrong, and its costing me dearly.
URGENT!
by ShelleyStrohl on 17 May 2010 - 05:05
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BTW- I have not named any accused, so speculatation is just that.
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by BlackthornGSD on 17 May 2010 - 05:05
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$15,000? Interesting figure, nearly 5x inflated, I hear.
I've no doubt that the mother and puppies will end up somewhere safe. It's too bad that someone who tried to do you a good turn when you were in need is repaid thusly for such efforts.
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by afwark15 on 17 May 2010 - 05:05
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oh please, anyone with a brain knows who you are talking about- and how could they not...you bring it up constantly.
I just think this thread was a little over the top and dramatic- that is all.
Amanda
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by bazza on 17 May 2010 - 06:05 bazza
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Absolutely shocked!!!
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by poseidon on 17 May 2010 - 11:05
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Harsh words can be expressed in anger but I doubt "the dump to the kill shelter" will ever happen.
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by kitkat3478 on 17 May 2010 - 13:05
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Of course EVERYONE knows it's PUPPY PIMP Molly. And of course everyone knows I'll say what others won't!!!!
Let me say this, Molly claims to be "one of the good guys", breeds ONLY for the betterment of the breed,(but despite bitching everyone else out for breeding untitled dogs, does so herself,$$$$$$$KA-CHING...KA-CHING...)Wouldn't DREAM of breeding long coats, But don't mind producing them, (ka-ching0, dog rescue..oh, that's right...got to be one I can SELL, (ka-ching), oh, mama dog in pound with litter that looks purebred...I'll get them,(ka-ching), older female within miles of Molly, (NO...No,no Ka-ching), No rescue!
Anything and Everything Molly does for dogs, people, horses, what-ever is done so with the Thoughts OF LINING HER POCKETS...PLAIN AND SIMPLE...
(and why is this my business??It's NOT!!!!!!!!) just thought I'd throw my 4 cents in....
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by Bob McKown on 17 May 2010 - 13:05
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I,ve seen the emails from Molly to Shelly and YES dumping them at a SPCA is exactly what is threatened. I could really care less if the two ladies were locked in a room with a gun and did away with each other but to threaten a litter in such a way is well below the standard of a Breed Warden for a Ge
by judron55 on 17 May 2010 - 16:05
OK.....I see we're at it again ladies....this seems more like a lovers quarrel:-) Know one is going to benefit from these constant attacks you 2 trust on each other. Now we have another accomplice joining in....shameful...!
by kitkat3478 on 17 May 2010 - 17:05
I certainly ain't no accomplice. What's Right is Right. YOU DON'T STEAL SOMEONE'S DOGS and HOLD THEM HOSTAGE OVER MONEY, NOT only is it unetical, IT'S ILLEGAL!!!!!
Let me say this. When SO MANY others attacked me , Shelley Didn't DEFEND ME, BUT SHE DID GUIDE ME, she gave me advice, she gave me suggestions, recomendations AS TO the correctway of going about what I was doing.
Shelley encouraged me to train, MYSELF and MY DOGS!!! There was no $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ involved in what Shelley encouraged. She is, in my opinion, out for the BEST INTEREST OF THE DOG!!!
So yeah, I 'll throw my opinion in,
Molly is a PUPPY PIMP...Check out her site!!!puppies,puppies, puppies!!!$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$molly graf signature, if I can make a buck!
Let me say this. When SO MANY others attacked me , Shelley Didn't DEFEND ME, BUT SHE DID GUIDE ME, she gave me advice, she gave me suggestions, recomendations AS TO the correctway of going about what I was doing.
Shelley encouraged me to train, MYSELF and MY DOGS!!! There was no $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ involved in what Shelley encouraged. She is, in my opinion, out for the BEST INTEREST OF THE DOG!!!
So yeah, I 'll throw my opinion in,
Molly is a PUPPY PIMP...Check out her site!!!puppies,puppies, puppies!!!$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$molly graf signature, if I can make a buck!
by bazza on 17 May 2010 - 17:05
Looks like all Shelley's training went to no good, judging by your posts. Or are you just doing her dirty work, naming names, posting private emails? If this is all true it is disgusting, but then I also find the way these ladies conduct their private affairs all over an Internet chat room also disgusting. Grow up and get it sorted, at least for these poor dogs sake that you all profuse to care so much about. I have never heard in all my time in GSD's such a despicable situation. TRY FOR ONCE TO PUT THE DOGS FIRST, BEFORE SCORING POINTS ON EACH OTHER, FFS.
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