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by myfanwy on 30 January 2010 - 12:01

From 5th Jan 2010 on the request of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Breed Council the KC will not be accepting registration from Merle coloured Staffordshire Bull Terriers
Could there now be a way forward for the GSD Breed Council to look into the same for colours that are undesirable in the breed standard as quoted by the KC web site.

by Mark3 on 30 January 2010 - 13:01

The pattern Merle in the SBT is a result of the merle allele M gene, which is not just confined to coat.

There is an increased risk of impaired hearing and sight associated with it, particularly in dogs that are homozygous for MM. It’s nothing to do with the breed standard.

So what argument is there for the KC not registering non standard colours in the GSD?

Personally anything that gets them away from deliberately breeding for non standard coat colour is a blessing but using the SBT argument is not going to do it with this KC, unless there has been some recent scientific emergence that the non standard colour gene in the GSD is directly linked to a health issue????

by AmbiiGSD on 31 January 2010 - 14:01

So what argument is there for the KC not registering non standard colours in the GSD?

The Breed Standard for a start

by myfanwy on 31 January 2010 - 21:01

Hi Mark3
Thanks for putting me in the picture,
unfortunately did not know the reason and you have given a very good explanation.

I thought this could present an opportunity
as the KC only chooses to abid with the breed standard when it suits them.

by AmbiiGSD on 31 January 2010 - 21:01

It's such a pity that all the breed clubs couldn't put forward Votes of No confidence in the KC.

by geordiegaviino on 29 July 2010 - 12:07

"The Breed standard" - No good dog is bad colour. Am sure you all know where and WHO i got that from! Yes the founder of the breed and he said there was no bad colour so WHAT gives you and other men/women the right to say this colour and that colour are wrong? Colour should be the last on anyones mind, it should be health and temperment!!!!!!

by Abby Normal on 30 July 2010 - 08:07

For once the KC are taking the right approach and not accepting registrations due to health reasons. Personally, I would be more inclined to hope that this would pave the way for them to consider restrictions on registering progeny from GSDs with known health defects or untested dogs for breed specific health issues. Colour in itself is not an issue in the health of the GSD, and in terms of colour/coat length, the standard is only a reflection of the 'fashion' of the current time. It can and has been changed and will be changed again in the future. Meanwhile health issues go unchecked - in any 'type' of GSD - standard coat, long-coat, off colours, black and red........

by geordiegaviino on 31 July 2010 - 19:07

Once all possible health issues are bred out of the gsd then a breeder can say its time to breed out the undesired coats but what chances are there of all the health issues being bred out? Slim i would say but they can be controlled which is why it is important to put health at the front and looks right at the back!

by Dex on 31 July 2010 - 20:07

Hurrah! - At last common sense prevails! So many posts concentrate on colour. I am so pleased that some people see through that and put health and temperament above all else. Yes, the 'standard' is a reflection of the 'fashion' of the current time, as you say Abby_Normal. Woe betide ayone who dares stand up to the ones who hold the 'standard' in such esteem though.

by geordiegaviino on 31 July 2010 - 20:07

By the way i would just like everyone to know that i do not breed but i am a lover of german shepherds and a buyer so i think my personal views on the kind of dog am looking for should be considered as the one of the best views (I didnt mean that to sound cocky)

A buyer wants a healthy dog with a pedigree and a dog which will resmeble (in temperment) the breed they are buying. A buyer wants nothing more than a healthy, mentally stable dog, then once a buyer has found what they are looking for then they will look for certain coats lenghts and colours. The standard is just a guide nothing more and nothing less.

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