Sitting Problem - Page 1

 My dog has always had a problem with hovering during the sit. I have spent so long trying to get him to figure it out and many methods as well. The other day i read something that sounded dumb but i said what the heck i have tried for so long why not give it a try. I read that by putting an e-collar on the top of the butt and using the correct level along with a reward to take the mind off of the correction that you can get the message to the dog. 

I am happy to say that my dog FINALLY is showing progress with the sit. he even sits quickly now knowing that a reward is coming. Im sure this wont work for all dogs and i don't recommend it for all but if you have an extremely high drive dog who can work through it and you have tried a lot of things to correct this problem i would give it a try.

Please take films from behind the you dog and from the side.
Lets see what it looks like.
Always,
Cee

Now i have heard everything Using an electric collar to get a Dog to sit, the most basic thing of all as is said check the Dogs hips and if they are okay then you are the one at fault not the dog for allowing it to happen in the first place
Steve1

nothing wrong with using electric collar if you using on law stimulus (read appropriate to your dog). I used it on my self plenty of time and on settings up to 68, never had a dog that needed more than 20 and at 20 it still tickles for me. I think that correction from a prong is way harder than e-collar, and before I experience e-collar on my self I would disagree with everyone out there. I still prefer to use prongs though ;)

when you said getting the dog to sit, I am assuming it was off leash? If so there is nothing better than e-collar for that.

And yes I agree if the dog is healthy than it's your fault ;) but we all do it lol, every now and than.

Never heard before of using an E Collar to get a dog to sit, if that is the case then one may as well use one for the sit the down the walk in fact everything to do with basic obed and it is basic in the truest form
No, a correct from a prong collatr is not the same as a correction from a E collar, if this was so then why the need for an e collar, they have there uses but not for teaching a dog to sit which we all know is done from puppy hood.
If there is nothing phyiscal wrong with the dog then the handler is at fault
Steve1

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E-collar is in so many ways less abusive and more consistent than prong and it is a fact not an assumption. E-collar delivers constant stimulus (correction) with disregards for scenario, state of mind, or fatigue of it's handler, this can't be accomplished with prong. You do not use e-collar to teach the dog comments, just like you don't use prong to teach, you use them to reinforce. Well if any one teaches the dog through prong you most likely should not be training. I suggest trying it before making assumption, I did I tried on my self prong and e-collar (I know it sounds crazy) guess which one I prefer? The biggest issue with e-collar that it dose not deliver sense of direction this is why you use it to reinforce training and not teach it, while prong collar combined with a leash will deliver correction and sens of direction. There is a reason why so many competitors use it, because it makes training easier and more consistent. It should not be used by someone that dose not know how to use it but this is the case with prong as well. You will forgive me Steve but I will choose to disagree with you, but I respect your believe and I am not trying to contradict you in any way just give a different point of view. I use my self prong but only because I am still learning how to use e-collar correctly and I won't switch over till I am ready.

The link above is for your reference steve if you would like to read up by someone that I think is one of the gratest trainers when comes to correct e-collar application.

I do not use an e collar and never had to use one I rarely correct a dog using a prong collar if the dog is in the wrong postition it will correct itself as it will feel the prong, you the handler do not have to use it often
Izzy is not yet 6 months old she sits on command, she walks good, she will sit whist i walk away from her then walk back,
i can sit her and walk around her in a circle, i can sit her and call her to me and she sits in front
All done with the aid of a leather collar, and i can tell you she is a real firebrand of a Pup, Huge Drive and now has a new name at the club of Loopy Lou, But she is intelligent that is the main thing
as i said before i have never in 60 years of keeping dogs had any problem to get a dog to be obed
Steve1

I am with you Steve, leather collar and some positive reinforcment and you don't need nothing else, but I never close my mind to other training methods or tools.

I do not close my eyes to any method, but i have never had to use any other method to teach a Dog the Basices, There will come a time when i may have to put a Prong on Izzy, but certainly not at her age, and anyway for protection we never ever use a Prong we use a Chain but on two rings so it cannot tighen up, that is the collar used in competition and trials. If i can get away without using a prong i will but i will not hold my breath on that one but at the moment she is good for her age
Steve1