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by hamza166 on 29 October 2009 - 12:10
I was looking at the gait on shawlein.com. I tried looking over it many times, but couldnt figure out. What is the difference between the illustration of the walk & the overangulated walk.. Can someone explain to me please.
Here is the link:
http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard/08_Overview_of_Gait/Overview_of_Gait.html
Here is the link:
http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard/08_Overview_of_Gait/Overview_of_Gait.html

by AmbiiGSD on 29 October 2009 - 12:10
In Fig 2 (The over angulated walk) look at the placement of the hind feet, in comparison to the Walk in Fig 1
The hind feet placement is further under the body in Fig 2 than in fig 1
The illustrations aren't very clear though.
The only way to see this clearly or to understand it, is to see different types of GSD moving in Real life.
The hind feet placement is further under the body in Fig 2 than in fig 1
The illustrations aren't very clear though.
The only way to see this clearly or to understand it, is to see different types of GSD moving in Real life.

by Rik on 29 October 2009 - 13:10
"Over angulation" usually refers to the rear end and is usually a combiniation of more than extreme angles. Bone length, loose ligaments also factor in.
If you look at the contracting rear limb in fig. 2 (the one under the body) you will see that the hock is almost flat on the ground. I have seen many dogs with a callous worn on the hock from this action.
Rik
If you look at the contracting rear limb in fig. 2 (the one under the body) you will see that the hock is almost flat on the ground. I have seen many dogs with a callous worn on the hock from this action.
Rik

by hamza166 on 29 October 2009 - 13:10
Ambii thank you for the help. And yes the best way to see this is to see real GSD's in life. I am going to a show soon, and hope to. Thank you for the advice.
Rik: OK thanks. I looked and i understood waht you said. You are right it is almost flat, OK thank you.
Rik: OK thanks. I looked and i understood waht you said. You are right it is almost flat, OK thank you.
by Ibrahim on 30 October 2009 - 18:10
Rik,
If a 8 week puppy has a flat hook on ground, he will come out of it as he matures or it will always be like that?. You know why I am asking (because I see many puppies having flat hooks on the floor)!!
Ibrahim
If a 8 week puppy has a flat hook on ground, he will come out of it as he matures or it will always be like that?. You know why I am asking (because I see many puppies having flat hooks on the floor)!!
Ibrahim

by windwalker18 on 30 October 2009 - 21:10
Good question this time Hamza... and some excellent answers... ^5 to all

by Rik on 31 October 2009 - 12:10
Ibrahim, the rear can tighten up as the dog matures.
In the case of Am. S/L, (speciality) they are bred for extreme angles at both ends and I never met anyone who thought it was that big of an issue as long as the rear movement wasn't overly sloppy.
Rik
In the case of Am. S/L, (speciality) they are bred for extreme angles at both ends and I never met anyone who thought it was that big of an issue as long as the rear movement wasn't overly sloppy.
Rik
by Ibrahim on 31 October 2009 - 13:10
Thanks Rik.
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