Another Bi Color Question

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by VomRuiz on 21 August 2009 - 13:08

I didn't want to take over someone else's thread, so I posting a new one :)
My breeder has reserved a pup (W/L) for me from a litter he is expecting the middle of Sept. Both parents are Bi Colors.
Can I expect the pup will also be bi colored? Let me know if you need the grandparents colors :)
Thanks in advance
~Stacy

by Idog on 21 August 2009 - 13:08

Of all the color alleles, or more correctly, patterns, the only one less dominate than bi-color (at) is black (a). So to have a bi-color pattern, the gene combination would either be (at+at) which would be a pure bi-color, or (at+a) which would be a bi-color with a recessive black gene. If both the sire and dam are bi-color with recessive black genes, then you can get about a quarter of the pups as black....any other bi-color x bi-color combination will result in all bi-colors.

I struggle with this issue personally, because the purest most experienced handler/trainers/breeders will tell you...."you never buy a pup based on color, you buy a pup based on temperament and working ability." Which is correct, and I agree......but, wouldn't it be nice to get that awesome pup, and the color you favor???

Personally I favor Black Sable and Bi-colors close behind that......but if someone gave me an awesome working line pup, I wouldn't care if it was hot pink if it was of solid nerve, and and strong in all three phases!

Good luck with your pup!

by SchHBabe on 21 August 2009 - 19:08

Stacy, just make sure that the dogs are really bi-colors. A lot of folks call a dark black & tan a "bi-color". I guess it's sexier to have a "bi-color" dog than the more common B&T. LOL

by Xeph on 21 August 2009 - 20:08

I think a lot of people also mistake a black & tan blanketed dog for a bi-color.

by VomRuiz on 21 August 2009 - 20:08

Thanks for all the info, now whether I retain it or not...well .... LOL

Yes, Bi Color DOES sound sexier ;)

The breeding is one I am really looking forward to. To be honest, at first I wasn't sure I liked the bi coloring But LOVE mom and dad's pedigrees and temperaments...The more I look at the dad the more I like his looks. I chose this particular breeding since I love the working ability of both parents. I am not picking my puppy. I told the breeder what I was looking for and he is going to pick the female pup he feels will be the best match.
So that is why I wondered if they will all be bi colors, since if they are NOT, Well...then the best match for me may be one of the other colors. Still okay, but I (secretly) favor a pretty colored dog LOL
The breeder did chose my male as a pup and I am very pleased with the way he is turning out. (He is 2 and I am just now starting his SchH training, so "I" am making a lot of mistakes, my dog is very forgiving and patient)

As far as if they are "true" bi colors, well that just threw me all off being a newbie lol. Here are links to the sire and dam, maybe someone can tell me if they are/are not...Thanks again for all the info, interesting reading!

~Stacy

Sire
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/471579.html

Dam
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/583431.html

by Xeph on 21 August 2009 - 22:08

Yup, both bi colors

by VomRuiz on 21 August 2009 - 22:08

OK thanks ;)

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