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by Videx on 23 July 2009 - 08:07
I am receiving a trickle of reports that a male GSD attempted to bite the Judge twice at the recent Border Union CH. Show. I am also receiving reports that another GSD, a female, actually did bite the Judge at the same show.
These reports appear to have some credence, and it also appears there is a "wall of silence" over this matter. This is a very serious matter, and if in anyway true, then these dogs need to be identified, because they present a danger to other Judges, other exhibitors, and spectators around our Show rings, including children.
If anyone knows of these incidents I hope you find your conscience, because such dogs are potential "time-bombs", and they need to be reported to the Kennel Club.
I feel sure the Kennel Club would organise a fair and acceptable assessment of these dogs, in their own best interests and in the interest of our breed, and obviously in the interest of all that may come into contact with these dogs in the future.
These reports appear to have some credence, and it also appears there is a "wall of silence" over this matter. This is a very serious matter, and if in anyway true, then these dogs need to be identified, because they present a danger to other Judges, other exhibitors, and spectators around our Show rings, including children.
If anyone knows of these incidents I hope you find your conscience, because such dogs are potential "time-bombs", and they need to be reported to the Kennel Club.
I feel sure the Kennel Club would organise a fair and acceptable assessment of these dogs, in their own best interests and in the interest of our breed, and obviously in the interest of all that may come into contact with these dogs in the future.
by Watcher on 23 July 2009 - 12:07
The male concerned reacted when the Judge tried to see if he was entire and everyone seen him, the Judge then tried again and he reacted the same way and was put 1st and was also awarded the Res CC.
The bitch concerned did not want to show her teeth at first and then as the Judge tried to look at her P1's she snapped at him catching his finger, she also was given 1st place and awarded the Res CC.
The atmosphere was already at a low ebb because of what was going to and did happened regrading the awards of the top honours so this didn't help that situation 1 bit.
So who is to blame for it:
The Judge?
The dogs?
The owners of those animals?
The handler?
The bitch concerned did not want to show her teeth at first and then as the Judge tried to look at her P1's she snapped at him catching his finger, she also was given 1st place and awarded the Res CC.
The atmosphere was already at a low ebb because of what was going to and did happened regrading the awards of the top honours so this didn't help that situation 1 bit.
So who is to blame for it:
The Judge?
The dogs?
The owners of those animals?
The handler?
by jaymesie51 on 23 July 2009 - 14:07
It is up to the judge to report to the KC if a dog tried to or did bite him as the judge has not reported any thing to the KC then that would seem to be the end of it .
jim h
jim h
by Videx on 23 July 2009 - 14:07
Not necessarily. extenuating circumstances may exist.
by jaymesie51 on 23 July 2009 - 15:07
Cant think what they would be david if the judge has not reported anything then that means in his eyes nothing has happened I will ask you what would you do if a dog/bitch tried to or did bite you while you were judging i know what i would do but this judge has done nothing so therfor nothing can be done.
jim h
jim h
by PATTERSON on 23 July 2009 - 15:07
Do the Kennel Club Rules not state that if an exhibit shows any signs of aggression it should be dismissec from the ring.
The Male in question and to the best of my knowledge done this before.
The Male in question and to the best of my knowledge done this before.
by Videx on 23 July 2009 - 16:07
jim h: "witnesses" count for one hell of a lot. Just imagine that a report/complaint about this "incident" is made to the Kennel Club, backed up by a few witnesses. Then the Judge is contacted by the Kennel Club and responds with "I know nothing". If the Kennel Club then decide to "close the matter" - the KC run a very serious risk, that in the face of the report/complaint and they fully accepted the Judges response, that IF the dogs in question, at some future date, then BIT someone, anyone, in the precincts of a KC licensed show, a very messy situation would ensue. Especially if there was circumstantial evidence of a close relationship between the Judge and the "dogs in question" owners. Altogether a very difficult and nowhere near straight forward problem.
by Videx on 23 July 2009 - 19:07
The results are on the Jaquenetta web site, so we know those entered. I suppose we will have to see if either of these dogs attack anyone else, hopefully not a child. Then the collective consciences can be suddenly discovered, and reminded, and pricked.
by Videx on 24 July 2009 - 07:07
bump
by hamza166 on 24 July 2009 - 17:07
if a dog had bit someone, it should not come first, as it's temperament could be classed as agressive, and in the GSD standard, the temperament is said to be sound
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