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by shilohgdrescue on 30 July 2010 - 02:07

I have given Zdenek Blabla and Debra Erlinger every chance to "come clean" and either admit that this pup is not from the Bryta x Jago litter or that there is some genetic defect going on....and they have not responded.  Blabla states he is too busy for this.  Well, sir, all I wanted was to purchase a male German Shepherd dog from the Pohranicni Straze bloodline for breeding.  What I received is a miniature mixed-breed something that has no registration, no pedigree and can't be bred and if you produce a registration for the puppy and he is not purebred and I would breed him, I would be in big trouble with the AKC.


I have a kennel to operate with 12 dogs (including the rescued dogs) a full time job and am moving.  Then I have to deal with this.  I'm not going to let you get away with what you did.

I think you sold the original black puppy that I wanted to someone else and you found a black puppy  full of hookworm somewhere, maybe in a shelter and I will investigate that next...and sent it to me.  So then would make around 4 grand for one original puppy and one mutt you got for free or next to nothing.

Anyone can look on the database on this website and see the progeny of Jago Jipo Me and tell that this pup did not come from this sire, or the dam Bryta z Akinej nadeje.  This pup does not resemble either of these dogs in any way.

You would like people to believe that I am some idiot and that's apparently what you thought while you were both undoubtably laughing your way to the bank as you shipped this puppy. 

The truth will come out, so I implore you once more to come clean or there could be serious consequences.  

To the person who said they had seen the black pup I have, did it look like th pup in any of these photos?  Didn't you notice when you saw it that it was half the size of the others in the litter if it is in fact, the same pup?  You would have had to notice its small size. 

To the person who said they hope they would be lucky enough if Alpine K9 would sell them a dog....all you need honey is 2 grand in cash and you get a dog.  It may not be the dog you wanted.....as in my case, but you will get a dog, some sort of dog if you have 2 grand in CASH and they only accept CASH.  No questions asked, they didn't care who I was or where the dog was going or how it would live, NO QUESTIONS ASKED....just demanded CASH.

The sad part is I bought the dog to breed with a female from the Lord von Gleisdreieck line.  We had owned a wonderful male from the Pohranicni Straze line x Gleisdreieck.  His name was Max (photo posted)and he died 2 years ago.  It was a very happy thought that we would get another PS dog.  Instead, this is what we got.

by FHTracker on 30 July 2010 - 02:07

The breeder has offered to put the money is escrow.

He does that.

You send the puppy back.

You get your money back.

Go your own way.

How STUPID do you have to be not to recognize this solution?  My God you're the idiot in the equation.

aceofspades

by aceofspades on 30 July 2010 - 03:07

Going to court is going to give you nothing more than what you have already been offered.  Your money back in return for the dog.  The seller has offered to use Escrow.  It doesn't get better than that.  What are you hoping to attain by taking the matter to court.  It makes no sense.  You can't claim pain and suffering.  I'm not sure you can ebven claim vet bills since he offered AGES ago to take the dog back and refund you and YOU have chosen not to.  What do you want from the seller?  I'm a little bit lost here.  I've been reading for months and the seller continuously offers to take the dog back and refund you but you seem to not be hearing this.

What is it that you want exactly and what are you hoping to gain by taking the matter to court?  If anything I would think that you have more to lose than the seller, you have claimed that the dog is stupid and that you crate it all day.  That's no way to treat a dog.  Or any animal.  It is not the fault of the dog yet that is who is being punished.  Send the dog back to the seller so that he can sell/give the dog to someone who will give it the love it deserves.  The longer you keep it and isolate it the harder it will be for the dog to socialize and rehabilitate and have any chance of living a good life.  You will be the only one to blame for that.

by FHTracker on 30 July 2010 - 03:07

Good points Ace!

At this point she is simply coming off as a bitter idiot.  If the dog is that much trouble, I would have the money put in escrow and be shipping it back to the breeder toot sweet.

Kimmelot

by Kimmelot on 30 July 2010 - 04:07

You know what ... revelation !!! She is AFRAID to send the dog back because it could be found abused and neglected on her own part ! That must be the answer.. no SANE person would be so unhappy with a situation and not get their money back.

I find it really funny that she can't kill hookworms over 2+ months, yet it would take joe blow 3 days with a proper dosage of Panacur/Safeguard  which they sell in packets over the counter at most pet stores. http://www.intervetusa.com/products/130_19107_2/productdetails_130_113877.aspx
http://www.safe-guard-for-dogs.com/intestinal-Hookworms.asp  

Its a pretty sad day when you love the bloodlines so much , yet hate what you have. I feel sorry for the dog, its abusive for you to keep such an unwanted dog there - don't you think he KNOWs you don't want him ??



jeysalim

by jeysalim on 30 July 2010 - 05:07

Ms Sonia
I think Hans has done more than enough to offer you your money back because he honors his health and other warranties.
If I am not satisfied with my pup and I would take that offer if I were you and let this thing go.... It's better for you and better for Hans.
I don't see the reason why you should keep arguing and fighting your way through.

Don't you think? Take care! 





by JakodaCD OA on 30 July 2010 - 12:07

all I can say is WOW,,  I guess I don't "get" why she would not return the dog and get her money back , end of story.

If you are so sure this puppy is not out of the litter you think, why not DNA him?

From the pictures I've seen, I think he's a cutie, offer still stands, if you don't want him, I'd be happy to take him off your hands:)
Diane

snajper69

by snajper69 on 30 July 2010 - 12:07

I still pray every day that you will get hit by that bus. In a mean time we quite understand that you can't fix stupid (stupid being you). At this point if I would be in Hans shoes I would sue you for slander. He upheld his contract in any way humanly possible, by offering you full refund, including shipping both ways (this is more than any (ready that part twice "any") breeder in any (read that part twice "any) country would have done for you. Trashing someone like Hans, that proved over and over that he is willing to take the dog back with no additional cost to you, shows that you are ignorant and not interested in resolving this situation. Calling the dog stupid among other things shows that you don't care about dogs’ period. I hope that all 12 dogs that you own finally decide to take a peace of you.

From the bottom of my heart.

LJT, Stamford, CT ;)

charlie319

by charlie319 on 30 July 2010 - 12:07

Let's look at the babbling rant of the OP:

"all I wanted was to purchase a male German Shepherd dog from the Pohranicni Straze bloodline for breeding. What I received is a miniature mixed-breed something that has no registration, no pedigree and can't be bred and if you produce a registration for the puppy and he is not purebred and I would breed him, I would be in big trouble with the AKC."

It is not as if PS bloodlines are such a rare commodity in the US that Alpine K9 has a monopoly on its existence.  There are other sources...

"The sad part is I bought the dog to breed with a female from the Lord von Gleisdreieck line. We had owned a wonderful male from the Pohranicni Straze line x Gleisdreieck. His name was Max (photo posted)and he died 2 years ago. It was a very happy thought that we would get another PS dog. Instead, this is what we got."

What I see here may be a mediocre Working Lines breeder looking to make a name for itself by tarnishing another breeder's well regarded reputation.

Luckily, Hans has sold many and has a lot of satisfied customers wo have come forth to shed some light on the spurious accusations that seem to seek to extort a free dog from him.  This would be essentially a small-claims-court case and Hans has already offered the remedy the courts would offer in the most rosy scenario.  If the OP were to try to drag this into criminal court as a fraud, she'd get shot down as Hans should be able to provide DNA proof on the puppy's breeding.  That she has not turned this in to the local LEO's for prosecution is telling.

IMPO, if the OP is not happy with her purchase, there is an offer on the table to provide her relief and she can go and get a pup of her choice from a breeder more to her liking.  I for one, would not sell her a pup under any circumstance.

by april the dog woman on 30 July 2010 - 17:07

For the love of god woman shut your face! you rediculous idiot! how please tell me are you going to get in trouble with the AKC if you keep him??????????????? Its stupid. The AKC has no duristiction over what you breed they just wont register them if they are anything like the IKC and that statement just means your a lick arse. the dog is perfect and if you wont accept the refund you loose all credibility. You havent a leg to stand on my dear, go away and leave these people alone.





 


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