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by Vinegarjoe on 04 May 2010 - 19:05

Hello,

Attached are 4 images of my 19 month old male, Gunther Von Banffy Haus, sired by Karats Ulko. Gunther does not like to pose for pictures and these images are not even close to being proper "stacked" photographs.

Anyone who could give an honest opinion in regards to conformation (if even possible from these images) would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance

Vinegarjoe

by muldoon on 04 May 2010 - 20:05

His back seemed quite roached if that's the correct term,so I'm not at all sure his confirmation would be judged so well. Dificult to be sure from photos.

by Ibrahim on 04 May 2010 - 21:05

It is unfair for him to be critiqued from these pictures really.

Ibrahim

by muldoon on 04 May 2010 - 21:05

I agree Ibrahim. Just my initial thoughts. But need more pics.

by happytogo on 04 May 2010 - 22:05

maybe pictures of him moving also may help

by tuffscuffleK9 on 05 May 2010 - 03:05

I would send more pics before soliciting comments. The pics you have here hopefully do not do your dog justice. If you cannot get someone to help you stack him in a better posture I would at least have someone take photos of him moving.

As these pics show he appears to be very roached back, poor ear set, weak hind quarter, as a matter of fact seems to be in pain. So get those new pics in. Surely he's better than theses pics look

TUFF

by VonIsengard on 05 May 2010 - 03:05

Nice to see you back, VinegarJoe. You have thick skin, I see.

The first picture would be useable to critique if his head were up, and ideally you would want the camera facing rear leg brought back a bit. Your boy does have a distinct roach, but he far from what people said about him as a puppy. I hope you are enjoying him.

by showshepherds4me on 05 May 2010 - 05:05

IMHO looking at just these pictures I would have to agree with Tuff. poor ear set, weak hindquarters.. I feel he is a little short in the legs, his front legs are too far under him, and his tail is short and curls up. He's also a little chubby.

His back doesn't bother me all that much but I'd like to see him stacked and moving. His pictures make him appear out of proportion. Lots of Show shepherds have this roached look if their bodies and necks are short.
It is really unfair to judge him by these photos and this is just my opinion based on my view of the standard. Other more knowledgeable people may have a totally different opinion.
I look forward to seeing more pictures.

by Vinegarjoe on 05 May 2010 - 05:05

TUFF and Showshepherds4me- Thanks for your comments. I have to absolutely agree with almost everything both of you have stated. The only points I will not agree with are the "he appears to be in pain" and the "he looks chubby" comments.

Gunther is in not in pain. We have gone as far as taking him to an orthopedic specialist who x-rayed his spine, had him do tasks that would cause a pain response if he had some form of malformed spine and everything was negative.

As far as Gunther being "Chubby" his weight is 75 lbs and he actually is rather lean. I think the "chubby" appearance may come from my lousy picture taking. LOL.

I will try to get better images of Gunther taken and posted. We are limted to a 12 megapixel camera, so I don't really know how great the images will come out, that and you then have to reduce them to a lower bandwith for submission. I guess I should purchase a digital SRL to get better images.

KCzaja - Gunther is doing GREAT. He has really bonded with my wife and has responded very well to obedience training and we are working towards obedience titles within the AKC system.

No Shutzhund type training for Gunther due to the Inherited Ventricular Arrhythmia. :(

He is a great companion and an excellent protector of my wife and our home.

by bazza on 05 May 2010 - 09:05

Vinegarjoe, I remember you posting his puppy pictures, and talking about his heart condition very well. He certainly has grown well, and I'm sure he is a joy to own. As for his photo's he does look to have a slight peak in his back, but obviously does not cause him any problems whatsoever, so big deal to that I say. I do not think he look in pain, he does look a bit unhappy though. I had a female once, an excellent bitch for the show ring, but the minute you tried to stack her she went into misery look,lol. We tried everything to get that "keen" look, but to no avail, she never was shown!! In any other situation this female was a live wire, she just hated being in stance. Didn't you say he was due a check around 18 months? Good luck with that, and keep up the good work with his obedience training, but most of all enjoy your big masculine boy. Best wishes.

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