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by flattracker on 13 March 2010 - 06:03
Hey guys, im still getting my feet wet in this game and learning all i can. So that said i was wondering if anyone could tell me what the major differences are between West german working lines, East german working lines DDR, Czech lines etc. not to interested in show lines. Trying to find out what the trait differences and tendencies are between these bloodlines. Such as what would make one choose a czech line dog over a west german dog or vice versa. Just trying to find out what each line is known for. All info is appreciated, thank you.

by yoshy on 13 March 2010 - 15:03
Well Flattracker thats really opening up a can of worms. This always turns into an endless debate. You could also write books on top of books about that question.
Let me start of by saying you can find great dogs in all three districts. You also have many variable in this equation. Differences in kennels, purposes of breeding's, knowledge of breeding's, etc.....You also have to look at the differences in breeding programs.
Take for example Czech Dogs. Now would you base the countries standard off of zPS(border patrol breeding farm) or a few other kennels such as anrebri, etc.... or Jirkova dvora/jipo me that are being bred by the national breed warden whom ran the zPS kennel for 21 years.
Or would you base present day DDR dogs off those whom breed for family companions or those whom breed for serious working dogs.
Or in West Germany would you bases it off those whom breed for sport, high prey and easy handle dogs, or those whom breed for the more serious working dog for the real world.
Also if you look through history Czech military and police breeding programs outsourced to old working DDR dogs, Slovakian dogs etc... pulling from the best stock to comprise the best- serious, hard, balanced,Territorial,environmentally sound working dogs they could.
As a rule of thumb- I like a good dog period. But I seem to find more of the style dogs I want coming out of Czech. However with that said I also have a czech/west german cross.
I favor the serious working DDR dogs and Czech dogs. I see many great sport dogs coming out of west germany but Im not a fan of many of them for the work that I do.
If you want to know Czech dogs and others. Ask prager hans. He is a dear friend and business partner of Jiri Novotny the national breed warden of Czech Republic and ran the zPS farm for many years.
Jennie Breeds some nice DDR dogs.
and we have a few guys in here that love there west german and belgium dogs.
So just take everything with a grain of salt.
Let me start of by saying you can find great dogs in all three districts. You also have many variable in this equation. Differences in kennels, purposes of breeding's, knowledge of breeding's, etc.....You also have to look at the differences in breeding programs.
Take for example Czech Dogs. Now would you base the countries standard off of zPS(border patrol breeding farm) or a few other kennels such as anrebri, etc.... or Jirkova dvora/jipo me that are being bred by the national breed warden whom ran the zPS kennel for 21 years.
Or would you base present day DDR dogs off those whom breed for family companions or those whom breed for serious working dogs.
Or in West Germany would you bases it off those whom breed for sport, high prey and easy handle dogs, or those whom breed for the more serious working dog for the real world.
Also if you look through history Czech military and police breeding programs outsourced to old working DDR dogs, Slovakian dogs etc... pulling from the best stock to comprise the best- serious, hard, balanced,Territorial,environmentally sound working dogs they could.
As a rule of thumb- I like a good dog period. But I seem to find more of the style dogs I want coming out of Czech. However with that said I also have a czech/west german cross.
I favor the serious working DDR dogs and Czech dogs. I see many great sport dogs coming out of west germany but Im not a fan of many of them for the work that I do.
If you want to know Czech dogs and others. Ask prager hans. He is a dear friend and business partner of Jiri Novotny the national breed warden of Czech Republic and ran the zPS farm for many years.
Jennie Breeds some nice DDR dogs.
and we have a few guys in here that love there west german and belgium dogs.
So just take everything with a grain of salt.

by darylehret on 13 March 2010 - 22:03
A bloodline is whatever past producer you choose to focus on, and in whatever regard, and "shoud be" a founding representative of a consistent "type" that passes unchanged through generations.
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