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niinc

by niinc on 19 December 2009 - 06:12



Hi everyone,

I am new to this website. Here are my questions that i want to know!!

I have a shepard/lab that says on his puppy card.
But all the trainers have said he looks more shepard/rotti

is there  a much diffference between the mix?

I got him as a resue dog at 8 months, he was skinny tooo skinny and i just got him alot bigger.
now he is 13 months and 6 days old. he weights around 70-72 lbs is that too big??

and i have a other concern about his ears. will they ever go up?
he's finally filling out more and his head is getting bigger, will those ears of his go up with growth of his head?

and i have him in traing for trailing and protection..

the trainer thinks he can go for his BH in the spring time, if i do my homework and work with him!!

she also said that hes the type of dog that could be a top dog in the sch-1-2 and 3.

 

i dont know much about this and i am really new to this..

alot of info could help me out.

thank you!!


by freemont on 19 December 2009 - 07:12

If his ears are not up by now, it isn't going to happen!

This board is really about the GSD, so when you have a mix, it introduces so much variation that it is hard to be able to talk within the generalities of tendencies of the breed.

As for the Sch, it is open to all dogs and if a competent trainer feels he can succeed, then so be it.  If you are planning on being the handler then remember that you will determine his success as long as he comes with the basic goods.

niinc

by niinc on 19 December 2009 - 07:12

I know this board is about gsd dogs..
The trainer that i work with knows alot about gsd dogs, due to have a world class helper come from the usa to come to her club and teach all of us, and her too!!!

she told me the first time i started with her that my dog(jackson) is 90% shepard, and she thinks there might be alittle rotti in there, she was noo lab at all!!

i know, the dog learns from me. that's why i just signed up on this board becuase i want to learn more about everything!!

i also saw acouple post on the net saying these dogs dont get full grown until 2-3 years. and some dogs have taken 18 months to get there ears up.  it's not like there down all the time.. he can get them up. just doesn't stay up all the time!

GSDfan

by GSDfan on 19 December 2009 - 15:12

Labs and Rotties don't have erect ears so since he is mixed with either of those I really wouldn't to expect them to go up or be dissapointed that they don't.  And at 8 mos he would be almost past the age of hope for a pure bred GSD let alone a mix.

Jackal73

by Jackal73 on 19 December 2009 - 16:12

is there a much diffference between the mix?

Yes, because Rottweilers are a guarding breed, and labs are a retrieving breed.  Read up on the temperament of each of those, and you'll have a better guess at how your dog will behave in certain circumstances depending on what's in him.  Then again, each dog is unique, and a lot of behaviors are common to dogs in general and not individual breeds.

now he is 13 months and 6 days old. he weights around 70-72 lbs is that too big??

Impossible to say from the photo you've given.  Does he have a waist, and does his abdomen tuck up?  Then he's not overweight.  If his ribs stick out and he's not putting on muscle then he's underweight.  You'll have to judge for yourself with the dog standing straight -- run your hands over his sides.  If you can feel ribs but they're not prominent then he's at a healthy weight. 

and i have a other concern about his ears. will they ever go up?

Judging from the photo and the amount of ear he has before the fold I'd guess not, but it's not possible to be 100% certain with crosses until they're older. 

by VomMarischal on 19 December 2009 - 17:12

Dog looks shepherd and hound to me. I don't see any rottie. But then, I haven't interacted with him, either. Would be easier to pinpoint with a video.

DebiSue

by DebiSue on 20 December 2009 - 00:12

Here is my .02 worth.  I think he is a lab/shepherd mix.  If he was part rottie his color would most likely be richer with more black.  His head would be wider, muzzle shorter most likely...that's if the rottie left a stamp on the pup.  Some crosses show hardly anything of the dogs involved.  But I'm looking at that face and the lighter coloring and seeing my brother's yellow lab shining thru a shepherds face.  He doesn't resemble my friends rottie/husky mix at all.  They are little bears.    He looks pretty fit, I don't see a roll of fat over his hip but sounds like he will be a big boy.  I wouldn't count on those ears standing up but he may surprise you since you mentioned they go up sometimes but it's really too late for that.  Whatever he is, you just get out there and work with him, love him as he loves you and enjoy him!
Deb 

Pharaoh

by Pharaoh on 20 December 2009 - 01:12

My neighbor likes the lab-rotti mix.  He has had several over the years.  The last one he had was solid black and to me, he had a shepherd muzzle and tail.  My neighbor said no way, we know who the parents are.

When he was a year old, suddenly, his ears went up and I mean all the way from being completely flat.

So, my neighbor said, I guess he's half shepherd.  I suspect their was a little "visit" and there was probably more than one father in the litterl.

I am guessing shepherd lab and he looks like a real cutie.  I have seen labs do schutzhund.  Go with what your trainer says.

Best of luck to you.

Michele

by GSD Justice on 20 December 2009 - 01:12

The dog has several serious faults.  You will not even be allowed to attempt a BH with a credible club.  You have a cute pet and I would leave it at that.  My guess is that your "trainer" has $$$ in his eyes. 

Floppy ears in a pure breed GSD is a sign of problems.  I can seen the markings and get the comparison.  The percentage of GSD's that are Sch worthy is very low even among the finest of breeding. 

You likely have a pet and I applaud you for adopting.  Keep your money in your pocket and go to a basic obediance class and get your AKC GC certificate. 

Your dog is not a GSD.  Sorry, but I love the breed and believe in the German standard of only Sch dogs breeding to produce a GSD.  A back yard dog running loose and humping a Lab or Rott is not quality breeding no matter how noble your heart.

GSDfan

by GSDfan on 20 December 2009 - 01:12

GSD Justice...correct me if I'm wrong but they didn't mention anything about breeding this dog.  They just want to participate in SchH...for fun.
There is no reason this dog can't participate if the dog has the ability.  The sport is used as a breeding test, but people with mixes can participate for fun, it does not mean they want to or are interested in breeding.

 






 


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