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by Siantha on 28 September 2011 - 04:09
i hate to be mean but who ever bred this dog needs some new lines.......... and needs to stop inbreeding............
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=609950
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=609950
by Donnerstorm on 28 September 2011 - 06:09
Hi Siantha, could you please repost the link? I'm not very computer literate and it won't let me click on it, so I have no idea how to look at the post your talking about. I apologize for my ignorance some days I just miss carbon paper. LOL
by sidhimelkel on 28 September 2011 - 07:09
by Two Moons on 28 September 2011 - 07:09
This is extreme inbreeding and almost looks like a joke with so much missing information.
I've seen it done.
I've seen it done.
by noddi on 28 September 2011 - 10:09
Jeez,never seen so much close linebreeding in a 5 generation pedigree,22 animals appearing twice or more.Carole S.
by Lennard on 28 September 2011 - 10:09
Donnerstorm,
Left click either to the start or end of link & holding down button drag mouse to other end of the written link and release button, link should now be shaded (probably blue) right click on shaded area and drop down menu will show options, select "copy".
Go to Address space at the top of Browser, clear existing address, right click, select "Paste" , Click on search button on address space (righthand side) and up pops the page your looking for.
Sounds complicated but becomes second nature after a few times
Len Gill
Left click either to the start or end of link & holding down button drag mouse to other end of the written link and release button, link should now be shaded (probably blue) right click on shaded area and drop down menu will show options, select "copy".
Go to Address space at the top of Browser, clear existing address, right click, select "Paste" , Click on search button on address space (righthand side) and up pops the page your looking for.
Sounds complicated but becomes second nature after a few times
Len Gill
by vonissk on 28 September 2011 - 11:09
What kind of missing info are you talking about Moons? Any of those dogs on there that have no hip ratings if you want to know ask me. I can guarantee you they have been OFA'd because she doesn't breed dogs without health testing.
I can also tell you it doesn't matter what the pedigrees look like a lot of her dogs go for SAR and she probably has a better guarantee and HONORS it than most. I can also tell you if you buy a dog from her and it doesn't work she definately takes her dog back, gives you a full refund no questions asked.
Regardless if you would linebreed and yes it is linebreeding NOT inbreeding that much what difference does it make to you what someone else does. The dogs are healthy, the breeder is responsible, she has been breeding for over 30 yrs, and probably has forgotten more about GSDs then some will ever know. I know this person very well and I know her dogs personally. So if anyone has any questions feel free to ask.
I can also tell you it doesn't matter what the pedigrees look like a lot of her dogs go for SAR and she probably has a better guarantee and HONORS it than most. I can also tell you if you buy a dog from her and it doesn't work she definately takes her dog back, gives you a full refund no questions asked.
Regardless if you would linebreed and yes it is linebreeding NOT inbreeding that much what difference does it make to you what someone else does. The dogs are healthy, the breeder is responsible, she has been breeding for over 30 yrs, and probably has forgotten more about GSDs then some will ever know. I know this person very well and I know her dogs personally. So if anyone has any questions feel free to ask.
by VKGSDs on 28 September 2011 - 12:09
I don't know this breeder or these lines so I can't really comment on the pedigree over all but for me a 2,3-2 kinda dances that line between linebreeding and inbreeding. But, both have the potential for very good or very bad. I would assume/hope the breeder knows the lines well enough to make that call, but it's too close for me personally.
by Sunsilver on 28 September 2011 - 14:09
Far too much linebreeding for me, too. However, there are some very nice looking dogs back there, such as this one: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=465568 which looks very much like current WL dogs.
Lots of Trommel dogs in the pedigree, and they had a good reputation for breeding solid working dogs based on DDR and old West German working lines. Don't know if they are still breeding, though.
Lots of Trommel dogs in the pedigree, and they had a good reputation for breeding solid working dogs based on DDR and old West German working lines. Don't know if they are still breeding, though.
by cphudson on 28 September 2011 - 14:09
I don't know the breeder to comment, but all dogs look well cared for + OFA on website. http://www.dutch-hill.com/kennels1.htm
Guess they really liked that dog they were line breeding too. Some nice looking dogs & has a pedigree page to list dogs pedigree.
Guess they really liked that dog they were line breeding too. Some nice looking dogs & has a pedigree page to list dogs pedigree.
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