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EagerSjiba

by EagerSjiba on 17 August 2009 - 07:08

So Shiba is just over 3yrs old she is not spayed and she has a 5mth old female german shepherd puppy Quill that she plays with... when they play shiba is very vocal and yips/barks and mouths (doesnt bite if she does it is very gentle) Quill. The other thing is when we are out playing and Quill jumps on one of us Shiba knocks her over and mouths her while yipping.... Quill doesnt seem to mind this and it doesnt faze her.

Also when we meet up with a friend who also has a dog Shiba barks and whines/yipes and will not stop... she does this for at least 10 minutes...

As i said in a previous post i adopted shiba when she was 18mths old... she was not very socialized or mannered when i got her... she is getting better....

She is NOT an only dog as we also have a 7yr old Saint Bernard

Any ideas how to STOP this behavior???? or is it normal and why would she be doing this???

Thanks

Mystere

by Mystere on 17 August 2009 - 11:08

Sounds jealous.

EagerSjiba

by EagerSjiba on 17 August 2009 - 18:08

Jealous of what??? if treats are given both get them and they both have a ball to fetch.... i am not sure what she wouod be jealous for......

bea teifke

by bea teifke on 18 August 2009 - 01:08

no,
she is showing your 5 month old she is the dominate one, she is just putting her in her place.
she is the boss.
now the barking , yipping etc.. for 10 minutes or so.
well thats either fearful of people , or she is guarding  you.   from them.
it got nothing to do with being jealous.

you do need to be the boss and stop her from doing this in the first place,  be firm.

i would not let my dogs do that , the barking/whinny thing.

bea teifke

by bea teifke on 18 August 2009 - 01:08

does  she show any aggession?
is she a nervous dog.?
it could be either of these things too.

EagerSjiba

by EagerSjiba on 18 August 2009 - 18:08

She doesn't show any agression towards people or other dogs... \she doesn't like other strange dogs or people coming in the yard but that is generally  a bark to let me know they are there....

When she is yipping/barking she appears excited almost like she wants to play... I have been firm with her and make her sit and be quiet. she doesnt get to go play or conitnue the walk until she is quiet. I am hoping that some day she will catch on as it is really annoying.... Its not a regular bark it is more a type of bark she uses when playing with me, other dogs or the kids... Its a happy bark if that makes any sense. ???? .....

\i dont think she is a nervous dog, not that i can tell.... \she is dominant though.... 
\Thanks for all your suggestions and help it is much appreciated... if you have any tips on how to get that behavior to stop al ideas are welcome

this is my first GSD and she is the total opposite to me saint bernard... ha

Lorie AKA Shiba's Mom


bea teifke

by bea teifke on 20 August 2009 - 02:08

it sounds like you are doing the right thing, and stopping and waiting till she stops the behavior.
i use a prong collar, on walks and if they miss behave they will know it , but they dont really ever try cause they know i am the boss.
and have learned what is expected.
the problem is cause she is dominate , she will try.
i too have a dominate female , and she knows i will win.
so most of the time she will not try anything. 
i would say just keep doing what you have been and never let her win.
be firm all the time not just sometimes.
cause if she wins , then she knows she is boss, it only takes one time.
i am always on top of my dogs.
has she been socialize well , that can be a problem too.
it also can be a bit of anzeity too. 

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 20 August 2009 - 06:08

Hi eager,
You wrote: The other thing is when we are out playing and Quill jumps on one of us Shiba knocks her over and mouths her while yipping....

There is a pack order issue here.  Shiba thinks she is dominate over Quill and deserves the attention from you.  Quill being a lower pack animal should not be demanding affection from you in Shiba's opinion.  Your affection is suposed to be reserved for Shiba in Shiba's mind, which is why she is putting the pup in her "place."  In a sense it is jealousy.  You need to step up and control that situation and be the pack leader. 

Some GSD's are very vocal and I have a female that "screams".  Even doing obedience when she is high in drive she will scream and whine.  It's enough to give you a headache.  She is very focused but very vocal. 

Does she do the same thing to the Saint Bernard?  I do agree with Bea's suggestions.

Jim

EagerSjiba

by EagerSjiba on 25 August 2009 - 01:08

no she does not do that to the saint bernard. They had some minor disagrements when we first brought Shiba home but have since worked it out. Quill is the only other dog that she runs off leash with....  i am not sure what it is... I know if Shiba 'could' she would be the boss for sure.... i am very in consistent with her, she knows that i am in charge and sometimes we have disagrements about it  :-)  she is definately a dominant girl... so is the saint Mocha.... hence the disagrements before..

thanks 4 all your help... appreciated

lorie


Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 25 August 2009 - 01:08

Hey Lorie,
It seems Mocha worked it out and Shiba learned her place.  That is why she doesn't mess with the Saint.  She is trying to put the pup in it's place, because she can.  You need to be in charge at all times, the dogs respect that.  I am like a "benovelent dictator" with my dogs.  We have clear understandings and we are all a lot happier for it.

Jim





 


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