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by Hundmutter on 31 October 2012 - 11:10
Abby you are more charitable than me, I was thinking "hisblue" was meant to be
"HE's BLUE" but whoever it was joined and posted in such a furious hurry, weren't
careful about spelling LOL
I've just been looking on ChampDogs - she has a listing there, but it is just that, no
comments/details/photos, and still her previous address unamended.
{gawd I HATE that site, is like looking for a needle in a haystack, nothing listed
alphabetically or by area, the only selection you appear to be able to get is those
breeders in your own Postcode area - unless you already know the address of who
you are looking for.}
"HE's BLUE" but whoever it was joined and posted in such a furious hurry, weren't
careful about spelling LOL
I've just been looking on ChampDogs - she has a listing there, but it is just that, no
comments/details/photos, and still her previous address unamended.
{gawd I HATE that site, is like looking for a needle in a haystack, nothing listed
alphabetically or by area, the only selection you appear to be able to get is those
breeders in your own Postcode area - unless you already know the address of who
you are looking for.}
by carol b on 31 October 2012 - 18:10
by Hundmutter on 31 October 2012 - 18:10
Yes.that's the JayKay stuff referred to earlier, we know about that ... Carol B.
by Hundmutter on 31 October 2012 - 21:10
I thought she (you ?) spelt Carole with an E; that's how it is spelt on some
websites. Unfortunately to the KC it is just "MRS C BROOKS". ???
[I do so prefer to be polite to people and address them by their correct(ly
spelt) name ...]
What exactly is that news item supposed to prove (about breeder, pop star OR dog) ?
"C'mon if ya think you're hard enough."
Regards, in anticipation,
Linda Swift.
websites. Unfortunately to the KC it is just "MRS C BROOKS". ???
[I do so prefer to be polite to people and address them by their correct(ly
spelt) name ...]
What exactly is that news item supposed to prove (about breeder, pop star OR dog) ?
"C'mon if ya think you're hard enough."
Regards, in anticipation,
Linda Swift.
by Abby Normal on 31 October 2012 - 22:10
Well I think it proved the breeder was trying to maximise her buck making opportunities yet again...'roll up, roll up, get a puppy from JK's dog - my how they would have flown off the shelves (at the time)- it proved that the pop star got fed up with her trying to make a buck off him and acted like well..a pop star - and the dog as ever is the innocent party in all of this.
Just been perusing the summer breed supplement Linda and I see that the litter registered by Carole Brooks earlier this year had neither sire or dam hip scored - oh what a surprise!
And yes the LIVER dog does have a hip score of 74 if it is Krakenedge Kalypso. So £900 for a puppy from a dog with severe, sorry - very severe hip dysplasia. Oh I do hope you puppy people are doing better research than hisblue did. In other words, RUN FOR THE HILLS......The next breed record supplement will confirm, but I don;t think there is any doubt, though CB could of course deny that this is her liver dog that has the puppies if that is the case, but the KC will in time reveal all.........
Just been perusing the summer breed supplement Linda and I see that the litter registered by Carole Brooks earlier this year had neither sire or dam hip scored - oh what a surprise!
And yes the LIVER dog does have a hip score of 74 if it is Krakenedge Kalypso. So £900 for a puppy from a dog with severe, sorry - very severe hip dysplasia. Oh I do hope you puppy people are doing better research than hisblue did. In other words, RUN FOR THE HILLS......The next breed record supplement will confirm, but I don;t think there is any doubt, though CB could of course deny that this is her liver dog that has the puppies if that is the case, but the KC will in time reveal all.........
by Abby Normal on 31 October 2012 - 22:10
Actually Linda, I digressed LOL.
What I wanted to say was the KC have one of the items of their breeder code of ethics below, of which I think the continued use of known epileptic lines can be definitely be considered both harmful to the dog and the breed.
Will agree not to breed from a dog or bitch which could be in any way harmful to the dog or to the breed.
They can be expelled from the KC for breach of this. I'm sure they breach loads of others, but proving is another thing. Might help to include in the letter to Steve Dean?
What I wanted to say was the KC have one of the items of their breeder code of ethics below, of which I think the continued use of known epileptic lines can be definitely be considered both harmful to the dog and the breed.
Will agree not to breed from a dog or bitch which could be in any way harmful to the dog or to the breed.
They can be expelled from the KC for breach of this. I'm sure they breach loads of others, but proving is another thing. Might help to include in the letter to Steve Dean?
by luvbug66 on 01 November 2012 - 00:11
Somewhat irrelevant I know, but saw the comments about blue eyes. Anyway I have just come across what appears to me to be a "chocolate" with blue eyes up for rehoming at one of the dog rescues in London. He's only a young lad too.
Not sure if its acceptable to post the link, but if anyones interested in looking I can say where it is.
Not sure if its acceptable to post the link, but if anyones interested in looking I can say where it is.
by Hundmutter on 01 November 2012 - 10:11
Luvbug, post him on the RESCUES forum.
Abby - gotcha, ta v much, adding it in.
Abby - gotcha, ta v much, adding it in.
by GSD John on 01 November 2012 - 10:11
When speaking with Bill Lambert regarding the Breeder Code of Ethics, we were told that on the Kennel Club receiving a letter from our Vet giving them information needed about the Epilepsy that Megan suffered from they would then write to the Breeders,which he eventually did, but he cannot force the Breeders to stop using suspect lines, we did suggest that the KC could refuse to register puppies coming from Known lines with health issues, but his answer was, you breed it we will register it, they take the stand that they have no legal powers to administer any stipulations their hands are tied.
This is why we went public so much with Megan's pedigree, if the Kennel Club cannot do anything and the breeders will not do anything, who is left, those dealing with the ill dog.
Margaret
This is why we went public so much with Megan's pedigree, if the Kennel Club cannot do anything and the breeders will not do anything, who is left, those dealing with the ill dog.
Margaret
by kitkat3478 on 01 November 2012 - 11:11
Now I have not said anything on this subject, but have been
following it . I find it dispicable that this person is breeding these dogs with these health issues.
The color has nothing to do with it. I "used" to produce blue, but NONE of these mentioned dogs are in ANY of my pedigrees.
I also know a woman who breeds for every color, panda included. She also has some beautiful red and black showlines.
Whe I was checking out her pedigrees, I notice back 2-3 generations, some of the lines are left as unknown,
Now I wonder if that is left out on purpose, since it is so easy to get the missing info from the kennel club.
I have not heard of any of her dogs having any of these issues, so who knows.
Like I said, my main problem is breeding the dogs with known HEALTH issues.
I also see some of those that used to call their dogs liver, are now referring to them as chocolate. That is rather disturbing.
following it . I find it dispicable that this person is breeding these dogs with these health issues.
The color has nothing to do with it. I "used" to produce blue, but NONE of these mentioned dogs are in ANY of my pedigrees.
I also know a woman who breeds for every color, panda included. She also has some beautiful red and black showlines.
Whe I was checking out her pedigrees, I notice back 2-3 generations, some of the lines are left as unknown,
Now I wonder if that is left out on purpose, since it is so easy to get the missing info from the kennel club.
I have not heard of any of her dogs having any of these issues, so who knows.
Like I said, my main problem is breeding the dogs with known HEALTH issues.
I also see some of those that used to call their dogs liver, are now referring to them as chocolate. That is rather disturbing.
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