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by jc.carroll on 04 June 2011 - 00:06
Brindle, on the other hand, I remain more dubious of. My understanding of the trait places it as a dominant one that cannot be hidden under something else. While it's possible for it to crop up again -- it had to start with some mutation somewhere -- I believe piebald and Irish white spotting are far more likely to spontaneously occur in the breed.
A while back, we produced a GSD out of American lines that had a white throat, and blaze from muzzle to forehead. She was aptly nicknamed Blaze, and sold as a pet. None of the other pups had so much as a white spot on their chests. Had I known that would've become valuable someday I could've started my own piebald line *laughs* bit at the time sweet little Blaze was more of an oddity, and partial embarassment, than anything else. Nice puppy though, color aside.
by Rik on 04 June 2011 - 01:06
I have seen many GSD with a white spot on throat. or white on the nails. also, I showed American dogs for a lot of years and never heard the term s/l. and I can say if one uses this term around folks who actually show American dogs and win they will have no idea what you are saying.
In the American ring, the dog who gets the points is a "show" dog and the second place is a pet. And the pedigree doesn't mean squat, unless someone wants a brood bitch.
would you be so kind as to post the pic and pedigree of this American "s/l" with a blaze face. I'm sure it had some AKC Champions somewhere way back in the distant past.
Rik
by Dawulf on 04 June 2011 - 14:06
Aww, Elkorr... had to pull out the big guns with the puppy pictures... :) What a bunch of cuties. What does that little brindle pup look like now? Have your dogs ever produced one like that before?
by Kaffirdog on 04 June 2011 - 15:06
I wouldn't assume that the fact it is not talked about doesn't mean it never occurred in Germany. I have a German friend who was the breeder of Bero Friedersdorfer Flur (circa 1980) so has been well into the breed for a good few years and knowledgeable, yet he had never seen a blue or even heard of one! I sent him a pic in case he misunderstood what I meant and he didn't know anyone who had had one born in a litter. I even asked if it was likely to have been culled if one appeared and he assured me that no breeder he knew would do that, it would simply be offered as a pet. However he had seen one registered in the breed book as an untranslatable colour and supposed it could be a blue. Maybe they aren't talked about because they are considered irrelevant to the breed in Germany.
Margaret N-J
by GSDNewbie on 04 June 2011 - 16:06
by Kaffirdog on 04 June 2011 - 17:06
Margaret N-J
by Rik on 04 June 2011 - 18:06
I try and not assume much, you know how the saying goes there. And I certainly am not assuming that a breeder selling off color dogs, has by some miracle come up with another color variation to offer the puppy buying market.
I do feel pretty safe in assuming that with the large international membership here, that if a brindle had been produced in say the last 50 years, someone would know of it.
best,
Rik
by Elkoorr on 04 June 2011 - 18:06
here she is with 7 weeks
and with 4 months (she is a bit more reddish than it appears in this pic)
by Dawulf on 04 June 2011 - 20:06
by Wildmoor on 04 June 2011 - 21:06
Dawulf cant do purple for you but there was a litter from Blackpool advertised as Lilac lol
you will find those that breed for non standard colours in the UK may have started to health test but most ignore the results and breed regardless they will also inbreed on known producers of epilepsy, Dilute Alopecia etc
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