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by VomMarischal on 11 May 2010 - 17:05
I love ya, you old prat. 
by bazza on 11 May 2010 - 17:05
Vom, just call me marmite....ya either love me or ya hate me,lol.
by Nefaria on 11 May 2010 - 17:05
Whatever.
Must correct you on something though, you say I have a chip on my shoulder, I am the least likely person to have a chip on my shoulder.
Over to you and do try harder next time old chap.
Must correct you on something though, you say I have a chip on my shoulder, I am the least likely person to have a chip on my shoulder.
Over to you and do try harder next time old chap.
by bazza on 11 May 2010 - 18:05
I'll take your word for it, even although you do come across as having a large chip,lol.
Condesending? Prat twice? I do love it when you ladies talk dirty, lmfao.
Condesending? Prat twice? I do love it when you ladies talk dirty, lmfao.
by Nefaria on 11 May 2010 - 18:05
I know it's tame but prat was the only word I could think of that wouldn't get me banned, but it is not used in the context of talking dirty.
by Blanik on 11 May 2010 - 19:05
Amazing!!!!
Beautiful dog by the way!
Beautiful dog by the way!
by bazza on 11 May 2010 - 19:05
No need to go all coy, I know dirty talk when I here it. Since you just joined yesterday to talk to me I am truly honored, and if you had been here longer you would know no one gets banned here, we are one big happy family, that do not suffer fools gladly. Now if you have any dog topics you wish to discuss please do not hesitate as that is what the forum is for, not really for your opinion of me or anyone else for that matter. Can you please get back to the topic, thank you for your co operation in this matter. If you did not join to talk dogs I can only assume it was my charm that attracted you ( again very understandable). Face the truth my dear.....You cannot have me, I am already taken. Good evening, my dear.
by Nefaria on 11 May 2010 - 19:05
I have posted on another thread, the main reason I joined really, as I do hate seeing people being conned into believing the reason for something being posted that does not ring true.
Also the insults because someone dared to disagree.
Also the insults because someone dared to disagree.
by kimbailey on 11 May 2010 - 20:05
Bazza, thought your own words you'd be able to understand, clearly not.
You like to blow everything out of proportion, lurking here I've read Pam describe her dog as having excessive angulation, pictures posted here show a steep croop indicating that it's likely to have angulation somewhat hidden here, she has also mentioned that he has a roach back in many lights.
He looks very uncomfortable, you didn't notice so you know very little and certainly not enough to worry myself - the expression I've forgotten more than you'll ever know comes to mind, mainly because you're just spouting what others feed you and can't think or look for yourself.
Your comments are aimed at individuals and are personal, I wonder why you feel the need to lash out rather than discuss things without resorting to unpleasantness, but that's probably beyond you.
You like to blow everything out of proportion, lurking here I've read Pam describe her dog as having excessive angulation, pictures posted here show a steep croop indicating that it's likely to have angulation somewhat hidden here, she has also mentioned that he has a roach back in many lights.
He looks very uncomfortable, you didn't notice so you know very little and certainly not enough to worry myself - the expression I've forgotten more than you'll ever know comes to mind, mainly because you're just spouting what others feed you and can't think or look for yourself.
Your comments are aimed at individuals and are personal, I wonder why you feel the need to lash out rather than discuss things without resorting to unpleasantness, but that's probably beyond you.
by pod on 11 May 2010 - 20:05
Hi KCzaja
"Again, a slightly steep croup has NOTHING to do with strength of back or rear and in no way impacts working ability. Just look at the BSP dogs with poor croups. Also, lack of angulation has NOTHING to do with strength of topline. I've seen many many dogs with little to no angulation in the rear with extremely weak, sagging toplines. Perhaps you should brush up on anatomy and how it affects movement and working ability. And I have to disagree, pod, I also don't see how this dog wouldn't be athletetic. He has a straight back, front and rear do not appear unsound and he is not overbuilt in front. He could maybe lose 2-3 pounds, but post inury of course lack of activity will impact weight."
The construction of this dog, though not extreme, is typical of showline where angulation has been taken to exaggeration to achieve the longest possible stride length at the trot. Though this may look impressive in the ring, it has no function other than for that venue. The steep croup is indeed part of this typical showring construction and most certainly does impede working ability.
The premise of the showring is 'the more the better' but that doesn't always apply... infact a long stride impacts negatively on energy efficiency because of the increased braking force. Then we have the extra wear and tear on joints... also the fact that what's gained in length of stride is lost in maneuverability.
To see dogs of athletic build you need to see the top competing dogs in their field. The best agility dogs have light build and only moderate angulation. Coursing hounds are at the extreme end where speed and maneuverability dictate a very much lighter dog where front angulation is extremely straight. The GSD.... well the working lines of course :)
"Again, a slightly steep croup has NOTHING to do with strength of back or rear and in no way impacts working ability. Just look at the BSP dogs with poor croups. Also, lack of angulation has NOTHING to do with strength of topline. I've seen many many dogs with little to no angulation in the rear with extremely weak, sagging toplines. Perhaps you should brush up on anatomy and how it affects movement and working ability. And I have to disagree, pod, I also don't see how this dog wouldn't be athletetic. He has a straight back, front and rear do not appear unsound and he is not overbuilt in front. He could maybe lose 2-3 pounds, but post inury of course lack of activity will impact weight."
The construction of this dog, though not extreme, is typical of showline where angulation has been taken to exaggeration to achieve the longest possible stride length at the trot. Though this may look impressive in the ring, it has no function other than for that venue. The steep croup is indeed part of this typical showring construction and most certainly does impede working ability.
The premise of the showring is 'the more the better' but that doesn't always apply... infact a long stride impacts negatively on energy efficiency because of the increased braking force. Then we have the extra wear and tear on joints... also the fact that what's gained in length of stride is lost in maneuverability.
To see dogs of athletic build you need to see the top competing dogs in their field. The best agility dogs have light build and only moderate angulation. Coursing hounds are at the extreme end where speed and maneuverability dictate a very much lighter dog where front angulation is extremely straight. The GSD.... well the working lines of course :)
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